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**sheefo13** · 08-19-2005, 12:06 AM

I highly doubt they match since honestly he doesn't want to be there.

**sheefo13** · 08-19-2005, 12:40 AM

I think if the Sonics don't match the offer, the Wolves will have to make another trade to possibly bring in a big. PJ Brown anyone? Just look at the log jam....
PG-Jaric/Hudson/Chambers/(Wright)
SG-Hassell/McCants
SF-Wally/ Wilkens/Ebi

Here it is. Jaric can play all 3 of those positions. So I would not be surprised if a Keith McLeod was signed to play. Hassell can play the sg/sf. Wally can play some sg. Wilkens can play both. Ebi wants minutes. Wilkens promised to start... Odd man out..... Has to be Wally or Hassell. Preferably Hassell. We got another defensive ball player now. If Wilkens is promised to start.... Hassell or Wally have to be on their way out. I am not sure if it is the brightest decision but if we get a good big in return I will be happy.

Flanders · 08-19-2005, 06:49 AM

I would be down for a Trenton Hassell and Michael Olowakandi for Theo Ratliff and a pick (I'm stuck on thinking if POR would throw in a first rounder, I mean, we would be giving up a young & talented player who POR tried hard to get last season by offering Hassell a contract and we'd be giving up an expiring contract). So yes, I'd say Hassell and Kandi for Ratliff and 1st rounder, I hope that doesn't sound too greedy, since, well, Ratliff is playing behind Joel Pryzbilla.

C - Theo Ratliff - Mark Madsen
PF - Kevin Garnett - Eddie Griffin - Nikoloz Tskitishvili
SF - Wally Szczerbiak - Ndudi Ebi
SG - Damien Wilkins - Rashad McCants
PG - Marko Jaric - Troy Hudson

If we can acquire Reggie Evans or Earl Watson in sign and trades I would be more than happy to welcome them to the squad as well.

Flanders · 08-19-2005, 07:10 AM

With the possible signing (if Seattle doesn't match) of Damien Wilkins, I can certainly see one of our wing players being moved. Like sheefo said, I would trade Wally or Hassell. And from those two, I would trade Hassell as with the signing of Wilkins it seems as if we are already looking to replace Hassell.

Also, with the removal of Derek Anderson at the shooting guard position in Portland. The Blazers are seeking a starting SG, a position that Hassell is more than capable of playing.

oblivion · 08-19-2005, 09:03 AM

I thought there was some rule about trading for a guy who you tried to sign as a RFA. (a la Ricky Davis a few years back). Is it just one year waiting period? If so, then Ratliff may be a good idea.

**sheefo13** · 08-19-2005, 09:16 AM

Yeah its a one year waiting period. Getting Ratliff would be great for the Wolves. You would expect a pick would be thrown in at this point. I would think it would be lottery protected but who knows, maybe they are willing to go out on a limb and go like top 5 protected if possible. But I have heard a lot of trade rumors of a Hassell/Kandi for Ratliff.

KokoTheMonkey · 08-19-2005, 11:25 AM

You don't want Marko Jaric playing SF on either end of the floor.

**Blazer Freak** · 08-19-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Flanders

I would be down for a Trenton Hassell and Michael Olowakandi for Theo Ratliff and a pick (I'm stuck on thinking if POR would throw in a first rounder, I mean, we would be giving up a young & talented player who POR tried hard to get last season by offering Hassell a contract and we'd be giving up an expiring contract). So yes, I'd say Hassell and Kandi for Ratliff and 1st rounder, I hope that doesn't sound too greedy, since, well, Ratliff is playing behind Joel Pryzbilla.

C - Theo Ratliff - Mark Madsen
PF - Kevin Garnett - Eddie Griffin - Nikoloz Tskitishvili
SF - Wally Szczerbiak - Ndudi Ebi
SG - Damien Wilkins - Rashad McCants
PG - Marko Jaric - Troy Hudson

If we can acquire Reggie Evans or Earl Watson in sign and trades I would be more than happy to welcome them to the squad as well.

I highly doubt Portland wouldn't do that deal. We have two first rounders for next year, Detroit's and ours, I doubt we trade either, especially when we get Hassell, who we did go after, who has a long term contract. Kandi would be someone we would get back in a trade, but it'd be more like Ruben/Ratliff for Kandi and a salary filler.

Nash has said over and over again that if we make a trade, we will be getting young players or picks back, so unless we are getting a pick/young player back, I doubt it happens. Oh, Nash also said that he won't be getting long term contracts back either, or something like Hassell's type of contract. I believe its like 4.5 mill per, for 3-4 more years, am I correct?

**sheefo13** · 08-19-2005, 11:53 AM

Im sure his contract has 5 years left. But the wolves would not trade Kandi to get another wing in return. I would think the wolves trade Ebi but I would not be surprised if Hassell ends up in Portland.

**Blazer Freak** · 08-19-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sheefo13

Im sure his contract has 5 years left. But the wolves would not trade Kandi to get another wing in return. I would think the wolves trade Ebi but I would not be surprised if Hassell ends up in Portland.

I would. We now have Charles Smith and Juan Dixon at the 2. Why bring in Hassell who has 5 years left, when we have to guys who can be a stopgap at the 2 until one of our younger players is ready or we get a better player. If Ratliff is going anywhere, I think it will be with Ruben, who by the way is a very solid player, just will not get any PT behind Outlaw/Miles. Kandi/Filler for Ratliff/Ruben would be a fair trade in my opinion.

**Blazer Freak** · 08-19-2005, 12:35 PM

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I would. We now have Charles Smith and Juan Dixon at the 2. Why bring in Hassell who has 5 years left, when we have to guys who can be a stopgap at the 2 until one of our younger players is ready or we get a better player. If Ratliff is going anywhere, I think it will be with Ruben, who by the way is a very solid player, just will not get any PT behind Outlaw/Miles. Kandi/Filler for Ratliff/Ruben would be a fair trade in my opinion.

Looking over the salaries, I doubt any trade could happen. Outside of Kandi, Hassell and Hudson would be the only other players that would benefit the Blazers getting, but they both have 5 years left on their contract.

**Blazer Freak** · 08-19-2005, 12:48 PM

Also, I think Wilkens would start at the 3 for the Wolves.

C-Kandi/Madsen
PF-KG/Griffin/Tshkitzili
SF-Wilkens/Hassell/Ebi
SG-Wally/McCants
PG-Jaric/Hudson

Then on D, Wilkens guards the 2 and Wally guards the 3. That way you have a good mix of O and D in your starting lineup. I think it will be great for McCants that Jaric is on the team, because now he can play the 2 on offense, while on D guarding the PG, while Jaric guards the bigger man.

**sheefo13** · 08-19-2005, 12:49 PM

Thats why to me it seems a trade for Hassell and Kandi for Ratliff would be the only option. Yeah its one long term contract, but that and Rndolph would be the only ones on the roster. You got to remember the reason for the trade. The wolves look to trade one of Hassell or Wally in order to free up the wing position in order for Wilkens to start.

If that wouldn't work out, I would not be surprised if A deal involving Magloire and Wally were to go down. A Wally/ Ebi for Magloire and Jacebson would be interesting. Or work PJ Brown instead of Magloire... Same difference.

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