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**Blazer Freak** · 08-19-2005, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sheefo13

Yeah true but Magloire has one year left on his contract and he is certainly not going to resign. So you would think they are trying to get something for him while they are rebuilding./....

Actually he has 2 years left. And I agree, he won't resign when his contract comes up. They are trying to trade him for expiring contracts like they did with Baron, so there goes any deal with Wally in it. I think a PJ/Wally deal would be one that could go down, but would that really help the Wolves?

I think Hassell/Kandi for Ratliff could be doable, but we'd need some kind of pick or Ebi.

socco · 08-19-2005, 06:59 PM

[quote=Blazer Freak]I think a PJ/Wally deal would be one that could go down, but would that really help the Wolves? /QUOTE]
I can't put into word how bad of a trade that would be for the Wolves. A 2nd option of a good team for a 5th option of a horrible team? We'll pass...

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Originally Posted by Blazer Freak

I think Hassell/Kandi for Ratliff could be doable, but we'd need some kind of pick or Ebi.

I would hate a Hassell/Kandi for Ratliff trade, without a pick or Ebi in it. I'd want your 1st rounder next year to even consider it. Ratliff's contract is horrific, and he's not that much better than Kandi (if any).

**Blazer Freak** · 08-19-2005, 07:30 PM

[quote=socco]

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Originally Posted by Blazer Freak

I think a PJ/Wally deal would be one that could go down, but would that really help the Wolves? /QUOTE]
I can't put into word how bad of a trade that would be for the Wolves. A 2nd option of a good team for a 5th option of a horrible team? We'll pass...

I would hate a Hassell/Kandi for Ratliff trade, without a pick or Ebi in it. I'd want your 1st rounder next year to even consider it. Ratliff's contract is horrific, and he's not that much better than Kandi (if any).

Ratliff has 3 years left at 10-11 million. He's much better than Kandi, he actually has an impact on the game. He had a shoulder injury, and the Blazers didn't want to risk anymore injuries when they were going with the youth movement anyways. You guys are overrating Hassell a lot. He does nothing but play defense, and he's not a super lock down defender. I'd take Patterson over him anyday, and I think a lot of people would also. Kandi does nothing on the floor at all, and Hassell is an okay defender and nothing else. Theo is a great shot blocker, and a good help defender, a good rebounder and a 5-6ppg scorer.

**sheefo13** · 08-19-2005, 07:56 PM

Last year he wasn't because the wolves wanted him to be more of a scorer. The Wolves now got a scorer in McCants so Hassell will only have to worry about defending. The thing is, he is a shut down defender...It is not ovewrrating him.

socco · 08-19-2005, 07:59 PM

Kandi's a better scorer and rebounder than Theo. Ratliff is a much better defensive player, but not worth an extra $30Mil. Hassell is good enough for you guys to offer him $27Mil over the next 6 years. He's a great defender. I probably wouldn't trade Kandi OR Hassell for Ratliff, based on that horrible contract. And even ignoring the contract I wouldn't trade those 2. You can keep his old overpaid ***. I'd like to have him, but with that contract it would take something really special for us to take him on.

**sheefo13** · 08-21-2005, 09:17 AM

From the looks of it.... The Sonics will probably match the offer even though Wilkens has said he wants to play in Minny, not Seattle...

myELFboy · 08-21-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sheefo13

From the looks of it.... The Sonics will probably match the offer even though Wilkens has said he wants to play in Minny, not Seattle...

i don't necessarily think that Damien doesn't want to play in Seattle---he wants to play where he can actually PLAY, & get minutes. He said @ the end of the season last year he'd like to come back to Seattle since they are the team that gave him a chance in the NBA. I think Seattle will match ONLY if he plays a signifigant role next year, perhaps providing points off the bench that AD brought last year, since Brunson doesn't seem like a guy who will average 10+ points off the bench. $3 mil is just low enough that the Sonics may match, esp. if we get Potapenko back for that same amount. The Sonics go small a lot, so Damien could def. get some good quality minutes, esp. if Vladimir signs the QO, then he'll get a LOT of minutes.

But, again, this is the Sonics FO, & they don't always do the things that are so obvious to do in Sonics fans opinions. They let D. Casey walk before having Nate locked up---that was pretty dumb, hence we didn't get Nate locked up, & Casey was the obvious next choice. Damien isn't the same caliber, but they already let 2 of our coaches go to rival teams, it would suck to then lose a player to a rival team.

**sheefo13** · 08-22-2005, 08:30 AM

Well they let 3 ciaches go to rival teams if you include Dean Demoloupos...

myELFboy · 08-22-2005, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sheefo13

Well they let 3 ciaches go to rival teams if you include Dean Demoloupos...

Dwayne Casey has been with the organization for 11 years....Dean who?! the loss of him is no big deal, the loss of Casey is prob. the worst. He & Weiss have both been on the coaching staff since the early 90's, but D. Casey is younger and was a more long term answer at head coach---Weiss is a 3 yr deal, since he is 63, & a shortterm answer.

**sheefo13** · 08-23-2005, 08:05 AM

Looks like we will know by Thursday whether or not Wilkens will be a wolf or not... Hopefully he will.

**sheefo13** · 08-24-2005, 08:10 AM

Looks like the Sonics are leaning towards matching the offer but it aint over til the fat lady sings... They have until tomorrow.. Hopefully they do not match..

socco · 08-24-2005, 11:59 AM

http://www.detnews.com/2005/pistons/.../01-291988.htm

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