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11-12-2006, 02:44 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
Well, I always liked Ricky, but I've always been a big Wally fan, too. You won't see very many Celtic fans defending this trade, incidentally...
That being said, Wally has absolutely outclassed Davis so far this year. The dude is on fire. It's too bad the entire Boston Celtics forum can't stand him and when he drops 35 points they find something else to talk about, like how ugly one drive he took was.
BTW, what's wrong with Slick this year?
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11-12-2006, 07:04 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
Getting Blount is what makes the trade good for me. But streight up I would rather have Wally.
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11-13-2006, 12:59 AM
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Re: Wally or Davis
i personaly like davis better
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11-13-2006, 02:45 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
Wally, and it's not even close
hard to believe that you guys don't see how horrible the Wally/Ricky trade was for your team (much worse than the Jaric/Cassel trade)
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11-13-2006, 06:07 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
If it's so hard to believe perhaps you could enlighten us?
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11-13-2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
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Wally, and it's not even close
hard to believe that you guys don't see how horrible the Wally/Ricky trade was for your team (much worse than the Jaric/Cassel trade)
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Interesting coming out from a diehard Marko Jaric fan who seemed not to notice any fault of his.
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11-13-2006, 09:27 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
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Wally, and it's not even close
hard to believe that you guys don't see how horrible the Wally/Ricky trade was for your team (much worse than the Jaric/Cassel trade)
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so far its simply a lateral move for both teams, neither have improved.
ricky is a better fit on this team now, with james on it... wally is a role player.
if u have wally on your team and hes scoring 35 something is wrong with the rest of your squad
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11-14-2006, 01:08 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
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so far its simply a lateral move for both teams, neither have improved.
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see, that's not the point, i'm not saying Boston got the better deal, Boston ripped you off or whatever. The point is the trade was TERRIBLE for your team and that's what you should care cause the Celtics current status does not make the trade look any good for the T-Wolves.
I told you this, I watched about 70% of Minnesotas games before that trade, and I really enjoyed it. That was very interesting team(Kandi/KG/Hassell/Wally/Jaric) with lack of fortune in the crucial moments(you lost a lot of games by 3 or less points, and still you had a decent(playoff) record). The weakest spot on that roster was, no doubt, SF/SG Trenton Hassell. It was too obvious that he was the one who should've been replaced. But, unfortunetely, McHale came up with an idea to trade away an expiring contract and only shooter on the team for a below average centar with a bad contract and a proven loser. Later in the offseason he signed a first-shoot PG(never a good move, unless that's A. Iverson) Now, your team is in deep sh!t.
The fact that: Mark Blount is your best center(what), Hassell is your starting SF(bad idea), Mike James is your starting PG(it's not gonna work), and R. Davis is your 2nd best player(nope)...is enough to make a statement that you are not gonna make the playoffs.
good luck though
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11-14-2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
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I told you this, I watched about 70% of Minnesotas games before that trade, and I really enjoyed it. That was very interesting team(Kandi/KG/Hassell/Wally/Jaric) with lack of fortune in the crucial moments(you lost a lot of games by 3 or less points, and still you had a decent(playoff) record). The weakest spot on that roster was, no doubt, SF/SG Trenton Hassell. It was too obvious that he was the one who should've been replaced. But, unfortunetely, McHale came up with an idea to trade away an expiring contract and only shooter on the team for a below average centar with a bad contract and a proven loser. Later in the offseason he signed a first-shoot PG(never a good move, unless that's A. Iverson) Now, your team is in deep sh!t.
The fact that: Mark Blount is your best center(what), Hassell is your starting SF(bad idea), Mike James is your starting PG(it's not gonna work), and R. Davis is your 2nd best player(nope)...is enough to make a statement that you are not gonna make the playoffs.
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Lack of fortune? It's not fortune, they were just bad. That team had no clue how to win games (not that the current squad does either). I'm not sure how you can say Hassell was the weakest spot. No player outperformed their expectations more last season than Hassell did. He was the lone bright spot for that dismal team. I should also remind you that Hassell started in 03-04 when the Wolves had the best record in the West. Yet him being a starter says that you won't be a playoff team?
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11-14-2006, 08:01 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
Got to go with Ricky Davis here. Wally might be a more consistent scorer, but Ricky is much more complete, with his ability to drive and do the drop step. Wally is mostly a shooter with a couple of different off-ball moves.
And defensively Ricky is consistently underrated while Wally is terrible at best.
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11-15-2006, 02:18 AM
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Re: Wally or Davis
Wally, easily.
Without any hesitation.
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11-15-2006, 08:34 AM
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Re: Wally or Davis
I'd take Ricky back in a second. I hate being stuck with this bum. He can't play D at all. All he can do is get pumped up, hit a few shots, then turn the ball over and start turning the game over with it, because he tries to take Pierce's role. He's nothing but a shooter. He has shotty dribbling and everything else is just...Man I miss Ricky.
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11-15-2006, 02:25 PM
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Re: Wally or Davis
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I'd take Ricky back in a second. I hate being stuck with this bum. He can't play D at all. All he can do is get pumped up, hit a few shots, then turn the ball over and start turning the game over with it, because he tries to take Pierce's role. He's nothing but a shooter. He has shotty dribbling and everything else is just...Man I miss Ricky.
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Actually that sounds quite a bit like Ricky too.
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11-15-2006, 05:35 PM
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