Green is staying in the draft (must have a strong indication he'll go lotto), Hibbert is staying in school.
Yi could go as high as 3, but at this point I could also see him sliding to the 7th pick. Not sure he's really what the 'Wolves need, though.
Hibbert staying in would have been a bonus, for either our pick or possibly pushing some other talent down the board.
YI may not be exactly what we need, however the talent reports recently are more impressive than what i originally thought....
great marketability with Yi, and we're definately a team that needs to take a risk.
im still way more inclined to trade it though.
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I think there are about 4 players right now that will be on the radar until draft day unless their stock drastically rises or falls.
Corey Brewer
Julian Wright
Spencer Hawes
Yi Jialian
I personally think Brewer is going to be the best out of this group. He could potentially be a Josh Howard with better ball handling skills. The defense is there. Brewer may not be the better scorer but oh well. I do think Wright would potentially be the better scorer. He seems to me more athletic than Brewer. With the potential scorers we already have on the team, I think Wright would not be the best decision here.
A question does need to be raised though. How often will we ever see a draft this filled with big men? At this point, I won't be surprised to see Horford and Noah go before 7. I think was is being mistaken here about Noah is the fact that he will be a role player. Yes, he will be a role player. But the thing is he will end up being the best role player out of the draft, and could easily be a 6th man of the year given a couple of years. I think out of Durant, Oden, B, Wright, and Conley, we won't be seeing too many more stars.
I think Wright and Brewer have the potential to become 2nd or 3rd options, but will still become role players. That is why I think if Noah is there, he needs to be picked. This guy knows how to win. He has led his team two times in a row to championships. Okay, maybe his stats were not amazing, but I think to have a guy like that on a team would be huge. His heart and passion for the game is something that can not be taught. I think of the big guys outside of Oden, Noah will likely have the biggest impact on a team, not personally. There is a reason why noah is a lock for a top 10 pick guys.
Okay so outside of that lol, I like Spencer Hawes. Although the guy is really weak even at a college level, he probably has the best "skills" of all the big men in the draft... I think that is obvious. The guy is just amazingly skinny and could be pushed around by shooting guards. I think if all four guys that were listed about, Hawes would be the guy I go with.
So I will rank the top 11 players to show you where I see these guys
Kevin Durant
Greg Oden
Brandon Wright
Mike Conley Jr. (unfortunaltly, he would be pointless for us to take)
Joakim Noah
Spencer Hawes
Corey Brewer
Al Horford ( I think I am underrating him, just a couple players I would take before him)
Julian Wright
Yi Jailian
Reasons for my rankings... Noah is 5 because if you want to win games, Noah is a guy you want on your side. Hawes is up there high because I truly believe he has the most acutal talent among the big men, including oden and wright. Oden is just a monstor and Wright is amazingly athletic for a big guy, Noah is a guy I would want just for his heart. That is why Hawes is number 4 big man in the rankings and the fact that he is skinny. I like Brewer a lot, but I don't see why we need to add to the log jam of young wings we have unless Hassell and Jaric or just Davis is moved. Horford I feel is a good player, just has the most potential to be a bust IMO, just a gut feeling.
My rankings are subject to change with all that happens in the next month.
i too think Noah will be a very solid roleplayer and will help teams win.. the only problem is that on THIS TEAM, a role player could only effect our team so much.. we need an impact guy, big time scorer or defensive game changer.
i think brewer and Yi are the only 2 guys from this draft id consider keeping with where we sit now... simply because they have the potential to be a number 2 guy very quickly.
however if they are off the board or the right offer comes along we need to move this pick for Pierce/Allen/Randolph etc, a second big time scorer we are despirate for.
Well I was pretty dead set on Hibbert for us, but now my pick would be Brewer. I just really hope we don't screw it up. I like the youth movement we have, but I'm still a KG groupie.
EDIT: Paul Pierce is going to be unhappy with the Boston situation. I say we get it done! Give them Ricky & Blount back With Durant heading to Seattle, maybe Rashard will reconsider. They have a pretty deadly squad when they want to play. I'm absolutely positively sure we should not touch Randolph. He is horrible for our squad.
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depends which way seattle goes really, if they decide to rebuild solely around durant then lewis will be on the way out and they could trade ray ray which we should try and get.
they could just try and compete right away though withray/lewis/durant... thats a wait n see.
theres rumors of minny and boston being in talks again, but all ive heard so far is they are trying to trade their pick.... however pierce cant be happy right now and i think we might have a shot with ricky and the pick.
as i said brewer and yi would be the only 2 id actully keep (or consider keeping) if they dropped
i think he'll be a solid pro, might take a couple of years to adjust.
its hard because with this team its really impact guys that we need, which we are unlikely to gain through the draft, especially at 7 unless someone drops.
i think this pick should be trade bait first and foremost, then if we cant get anything just take BPA.... havnt put a list together yet i might when i get a sec
I am not going to lie, Brewer would be an awsome pick for the wolves. I just feel that with all the wings we have, it would not make sense. Again, if the package Hassell and Jaric or Davis by himself are traded, Brewer would be a good decision. If we traded for Pierce giving up Davis and Blount and kept the pick, then its a no brainer to go big. Chances of this type of a draft like this that is this filled with big men is going to be slim. Yi I feel is too much like KG, so it would be somewhat pointless to take him. I like Hawes because he has the most potential of any guy in this draft to become a true center with skills.
Dont get me wrong though, taking Brewer, I would love to see us trade for Randolph. I am not sure if this makes Brewer a starter or what, but oh well. Chances are though that McHale ends up taking a guy like javaris crittention at 7 with Brewer, Yi, Noah, Wright, Hawes all still on the board... Cuz lets be honest. None of this would be a problem if the Wolves went with Josh Howard or Danny Granger.... Brewer would be up there too.
I am not going to lie, Brewer would be an awsome pick for the wolves. I just feel that with all the wings we have, it would not make sense. Again, if the package Hassell and Jaric or Davis by himself are traded, Brewer would be a good decision. If we traded for Pierce giving up Davis and Blount and kept the pick, then its a no brainer to go big. Chances of this type of a draft like this that is this filled with big men is going to be slim. Yi I feel is too much like KG, so it would be somewhat pointless to take him. I like Hawes because he has the most potential of any guy in this draft to become a true center with skills.
Dont get me wrong though, taking Brewer, I would love to see us trade for Randolph. I am not sure if this makes Brewer a starter or what, but oh well. Chances are though that McHale ends up taking a guy like javaris crittention at 7 with Brewer, Yi, Noah, Wright, Hawes all still on the board... Cuz lets be honest. None of this would be a problem if the Wolves went with Josh Howard or Danny Granger.... Brewer would be up there too.
Brewer needs to bulk up a fair bit to be successful at the 3, and if he can only play SG then yeah its a bit of a wasted pick considering our back court is over loaded at the moment.
however i cant see those guys returning so the pick will be made with trades in mind i think, we need to get a big from one place or the other.
Don't waste your pick. He's one of those guys talented enough to be a Top 5 pick, but he just doesn't understand how to play. He'll never be a significant player on a great team, take Brewer, Green, Julian Wright, Al Thornton, etc. ahead of him for sure.
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Here's the thing I find hilarious about Noah: it seems like almost every year there is a player branded a "role player who knows how to win but has less impressive stats than he should and therefor has limited potential" and it leads to us not wanting to take that player. The twist is half way through the season we are suddenly pissed that we could have had that player and chose to pick on potential instead.
This team would be a lot better if we had Roy and Howard instead of Foye and Ebi. Sometimes the guy who knows how to play but has "limited potential" is the smart pick anyway. Maybe he fits our team, and maybe he doesn't. Maybe we should draft him, and maybe we shouldn't, but somebody is going to get a very solid player when they draft him.
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Here's the thing I find hilarious about Noah: it seems like almost every year there is a player branded a "role player who knows how to win but has less impressive stats than he should and therefor has limited potential" and it leads to us not wanting to take that player. The twist is half way through the season we are suddenly pissed that we could have had that player and chose to pick on potential instead.
This team would be a lot better if we had Roy and Howard instead of Foye and Ebi. Sometimes the guy who knows how to play but has "limited potential" is the smart pick anyway. Maybe he fits our team, and maybe he doesn't. Maybe we should draft him, and maybe we shouldn't, but somebody is going to get a very solid player when they draft him.
our only problem is that a solid huslte guy isnt going to help the situation we are in at the moment, i mean sure Noah could have a great improvement and be a josh howard level player but i dont really see that potential in him.
i think he will be better than most expect but playing at the 4 and not really being an impact guy it would be a wasted pick for us IMO.
in terms of potential i see:
Durant/Oden
B.Wright
Yi
Conley
Brewer
Horford
Hawes
Noah
J.Wright
Draft Prospects?
With Durant heading to Seattle, maybe Rashard will reconsider. They have a pretty deadly squad when they want to play. I'm absolutely positively sure we should not touch Randolph. He is horrible for our squad.
