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Old 06-17-2007, 06:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What NBA fan wouldn't want to see this lineup in action

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Bench: Barbosa, Diaw, Jones, #24 and 3 scrubs.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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This supposed trade wouldn't help the Wolves at all. What is the purpose of getting Marion? He's a nice player but he's a veteran. He would not be part of the future of the team. So we'd be locked into a long-term large contract with Marion that would prevent us from acquiring players via free agency or trade...

I hate when outsiders come in and try to sell us on a Garnett trade because they simply don't understand the team's situation. A team that's traded most of its future draft picks and doesn't have much in the way of young talent can't rebuild. And late first round picks don't help much; our management rarely makes a good lottery pick.
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KG to be a Center? He absolutely hated it.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:36 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This supposed trade wouldn't help the Wolves at all. What is the purpose of getting Marion? He's a nice player but he's a veteran. He would not be part of the future of the team. So we'd be locked into a long-term large contract with Marion that would prevent us from acquiring players via free agency or trade...

I hate when outsiders come in and try to sell us on a Garnett trade because they simply don't understand the team's situation. A team that's traded most of its future draft picks and doesn't have much in the way of young talent can't rebuild. And late first round picks don't help much; our management rarely makes a good lottery pick.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:37 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Marion is NOT a long term contract. He can and will likely opt out next offseason and even if not he is just a 2 year contract and highly tradeable for younger assets if the Wolves wanted to acquire a ton of young guys with no veteran leadership.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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This supposed trade wouldn't help the Wolves at all. What is the purpose of getting Marion? He's a nice player but he's a veteran. He would not be part of the future of the team. So we'd be locked into a long-term large contract with Marion that would prevent us from acquiring players via free agency or trade...

I hate when outsiders come in and try to sell us on a Garnett trade because they simply don't understand the team's situation. A team that's traded most of its future draft picks and doesn't have much in the way of young talent can't rebuild. And late first round picks don't help much; our management rarely makes a good lottery pick.
I agree.

But Marion isn't a long term deal. He can opt out next yr. Unless you meant if you resigned him.
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Old 06-17-2007, 06:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Marion is NOT a long term contract. He can and will likely opt out next offseason and even if not he is just a 2 year contract and highly tradeable for younger assets if the Wolves wanted to acquire a ton of young guys with no veteran leadership.
That's the same situation with Garnett, no?
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I agree.

But Marion isn't a long term deal. He can opt out next yr. Unless you meant if you resigned him.
So is KG.
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Marion is NOT a long term contract. He can and will likely opt out next offseason and even if not he is just a 2 year contract and highly tradeable for younger assets if the Wolves wanted to acquire a ton of young guys with no veteran leadership.
So, if that's the case, then why should we trade for Marion at all? Why not trade Garnett for young assets?
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So is KG.

Yeah, that's kinda why I have a hard time grasping it. Amare might have to be apart of a deal which might make PHX decide against it. If it's true. Because then that would take away the future for now.
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KG to be a Center? He absolutely hated it.

Nah, Amare would probably play center.
KG would probably be asked to defend the best player in the post though.

Suns would have to give up alot of picks, so I'm curious to see what happens.
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So, if that's the case, then why should we trade for Marion at all? Why not trade Garnett for young assets?
Jesus please...

1. KG makes 24 Million per YEAR. That alone limits your options to trade him.
2. KG will most likely not want to go to any team that is not going to compete. Limits the possibilities even more.
3. You would get a likely lottery pick from Atlanta plus 2 more first round picks.
4. Marion could go to a third team like Boston with Ratliffs expiring contract and #5 going to Minnesota.

That would immediately clear out the entire salary for 2008 and give Minnesota 2 lottery picks and 2 more first round picks.

You are delusional if you think that is not much for KG who is 31 years old and makes 24M$. Lets see what Shaq and Iverson returned in trade..

Also Marion only just turned 29, it's not like he is done in 2 years, he has probably 5-6 years left at his level.
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By the way, what do you mean by "Atlanta's pick"? Which pick is that? Not their #3 pick this year, right?
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By the way, what do you mean by "Atlanta's pick"? Which pick is that? Not their #3 pick this year, right?

It's the unprotected pick next yr. It was top 3 protected this yr.