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**Avalanche** · 06-20-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Seuss

If Amare is traded, are you going to follow him?
That's one of the few reasons I would consider trading Amare.

damn, couldve traded Amare, KT, ATL '08, Amareca

for Kevin Garnett and Avalanche

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Originally Posted by Amareca

Also that realgm mod lost all credibility when he compared Amare to Kenyon Martin and then said he would rather have Al Jefferson than Amare.

First it was a done deal that KG was traded to Phoenix, then it was 3 teams interested, then it was a bidding war, now it is Amare to Minnesota but in reality Amare isn't more than Kenyon Martin? It's just hilarious, can't take those realGM dudes serious anymore. The guy who started this may have had a point and a source apparently he is from KG's family circle, but whatever that mod is making up since then, I don't buy any of it anymore..

ok so now that he isnt supporting your arguement he's lost all credibility?

of course.

he wasnt saying kenyon and amare are the same player but are similar, and that without the all-star PG next to them could become less effective.
Jefferson isnt as much of a risk as amare, who at VERY LEAST has another surgery coming on that knee in 4 years as per docters orders... that is of course assuming nothing else goes wrong.

**Dissonance19** · 06-20-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalanche

damn, couldve traded Amare, KT, ATL '08, Amareca

for Kevin Garnett and Avalanche

ok so now that he isnt supporting your arguement he's lost all credibility?

of course.

he wasnt saying kenyon and amare are the same player but are similar, and that without the all-star PG next to them could become less effective.
Jefferson isnt as much of a risk as amare, who at VERY LEAST has another surgery coming on that knee in 4 years as per docters orders... that is of course assuming nothing else goes wrong.

lol I noticed that too. Once Amare was being brought in as a possibility, it has less validity.

I asked before, but no one saw it. You guys seem to think Boston deal is better. What if KG said no about going to Boston and that it had to be PHX. How would you guys feel about that?

**Avalanche** · 06-20-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissonance19

lol I noticed that too. Once Amare was being brought in as a possibility, it has less validity.

I asked before, but no one saw it. You guys seem to think Boston deal is better. What if KG said no about going to Boston and that it had to be PHX. How would you guys feel about that?

well the boston deal is only better if amare is not up for trade (which is obviously possible), the number 5 and jefferson is better than the rest the suns have to offer.

IF he said no? hell as far as im concerned he can do what he wants, hes stuck by this franchise for years and played as hard as anyone just hoping mchale n co could get some decent moves made, they have failed him time and time again.
of course itd be bad for the wolves, but im with Garnett first so i couldnt blame him at all for demanding where he goes.

just for the record i very much doubt he would say no to boston... him, PP, west, wally etc would make the conference finals at least, and i know the west is stronger but i would NOT want to be the team matching up with garnett in his first finals appearance

**Dissonance19** · 06-20-2007, 03:24 PM

I tend to think he just might say "no" to going there. I mean, yeah, he might go to conference finals or finals, but realistically, are they winning it all? I think they'd a few pieces away despite getting him from doing so.

He might also think about AI going to Denver, and want to make sure he is in the right place where they have the best shot to do it.

**Avalanche** · 06-20-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissonance19

I tend to think he just might say "no" to going there. I mean, yeah, he might go to conference finals or finals, but realistically, are they winning it all? I think they'd a few pieces away despite getting him from doing so.

He might also think about AI going to Denver, and want to make sure he is in the right place where they have the best shot to do it.

true, and he would obviously assess whether he would have a legit chance at a ring where he goes.
but paul pierce is great, hes dragged teams through the playoffs using... wait for it, antoine walker as his second option and not much else.

if they can hold on to pierce, west and wally thats a great start all they need is a big guy next to KG (magloire in FA or somethin).
they would have a cake walk through to the conference finals, and if they did reach the finals i would not want to be the team in the west facing pierce and garnett in their long awaited finals berth, its a great inside/outside duo and both of them can do everything needed on the court to win..
especially if they get through the east unharmed, whoever comes out of the west will have a lot more games and minutes logged in the PO's

just my opinion but i dont think he says no to a boston trade if it came to it

**Avalanche** · 06-20-2007, 04:22 PM

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...y_shopping_kg/

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As far as Timberwolves basketball boss Kevin McHale is concerned, any trade talk involving Kevin Garnett so far has been just that -- talk.

"Who knows what's going to happen?" McHale said Wednesday after the Wolves worked out Jeff Green and Al Horford in preparation for next week's draft. "But we're not out there actively shopping Kevin Garnett around the NBA. I can tell you that much."

McHale was pressed on the topic a day after Danny Ainge told The Boston Herald that he has talked to McHale about Garnett.

But McHale dismissed that news as the typical chatter that happens between executives in the days leading up to the draft

do you think mchale has had an auto reply for this question for about 3 years now? we're back in that ugly circle we've been in before wolves fans lol

Amareca · 06-20-2007, 05:37 PM

I hope something happens soon because this is getting annoying..

The guy who posted the insider information before the realgm guy, and apparently they know each other wrote today.

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paperwork on trade to phx started yesterday mourning...also addidas and nba are upset about this cuz kg was supposed to be the big draw when the twolves go over seas to play some pre season games next season...

With the Suns luck, Stern will nix any trade even if they found an acceptable trade for KG. lol

And why would the NBA be unhappy about the trade if Minnesota got another huge draw like Amare out of it?
I happened to watch a documentation about the life of Boris Beckers' ex wife in Miami and her 2 sons. And guess whose framed picture the oldest son had in his room? Amare Stoudemire.

And later

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kg has and opt out next year and no team will trade for him unless he agrees to waive his opt out. He has agreed to waive his opt out if he goes to the suns...he hasnt for boston...so basically its 99% done to phx unless the suns go back on it in the 11th hour....and i dont know who the twolves are gettin back for sure...i have been told that it is thought to be stoudamire

Amare won't be traded though , I am 100% sure on that. Marion and Barbosa would be more likely than that but I also don't think Phoenix would be willing to give up Marion, Barbosa and a 2008 lottery pick.

More likely the Wolves are asking for Marion, Thomas, Barbosa and picks for Garnett and Jaric or something and that is the dealbreaker because Phoenix is only willing to give up Marion, Thomas, Banks and picks for Garnett and Jaric. Jaric's contract is a lot worse than Banks, A LOT. -_-

**Avalanche** · 06-20-2007, 05:42 PM

the wolves are asking for amare.... and so they should, the counter offer is a big drop off as far as rebuilding goes.

from what i can gather a deal was almost set with pheonix and now it appears boston IS offering the number 5 and jefferson and appear to be favourites to land KG if hes moved.. im not so sure on the opt out part though i will admit.

i'll try and find out a bit more n post it up today sometime

Amareca · 06-20-2007, 05:45 PM

This is definately the weirdest and most annoying trade saga anyway it turns out...hopefully it ends soon.

The most annoying part is that it's nearly impossible to discredit the rumor starters and this guy would have to be an absolute psycho to look into all these details to fake that rumor and stand by it for days.

**bruno34115** · 06-20-2007, 05:51 PM

It better be Amare or Jefferson and the 5.

**Dissonance19** · 06-20-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalanche

the wolves are asking for amare.... and so they should, the counter offer is a big drop off as far as rebuilding goes.

from what i can gather a deal was almost set with pheonix and now it appears boston IS offering the number 5 and jefferson and appear to be favourites to land KG if hes moved.. im not so sure on the opt out part though i will admit.

i'll try and find out a bit more n post it up today sometime

I heard about that supposed favorite about being Boston. Minnesota mod on real gm, said they're just going back and forth bidding. So, I don't buy anyone is the favorites right now, if there is any truth to this all. Too many contradictions. One guy saying he wouldn't waive his opt out for Boston, is saying it's a done deal for PHX. And the other saying it is a done deal for Boston.

**Dissonance19** · 06-20-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bruno34115

It better be Amare or Jefferson and the 5.

You guys would only get the #5 if there is a 3 way deal, or if it's just between Boston.

PHX to do a deal with Amare, it'd be just Min-PHX.

**bruno34115** · 06-20-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissonance19

You guys would only get the #5 if there is a 3 way deal, or just between Boston.

PHX to do a deal with Amare, it'd be just Min-PHX.

No, im saying if he's gone it better be to Phoenix for Amare, or to Boston for Al #5 and scraps. Meaning I would be pissed off if he went for say Marion, or to another team for a weaker package.

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