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Old 11-15-2007, 11:20 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Re: Game 6: Wolves (0-5) vs. Kings (2-5)

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Well, look at Telfair, he is a true point. Jaric is crap. He is a pg yet, he is a lousy ballhandler, lousy passer, cant defender the other Pgs. Telfair is a pretty good passer, great ballhandler and when he wants a pretty good defender. he can't shoot but look at Jaric, he can't shoot either.
Jaric is good at getting steals, and occasionaly has a good game. Ur man love for Jaric is sick, at least admire a decent player.
really,Telfair-Jaric and you go with Telfair WOW..i'm pretty sure every sigle coach in the league would take Jaric with a broken leg over prime Telfair any time of the year. Just look around the league, Marbury got benched because they need a defensive minded PG who doesn't care much about scoring = Jaric, Denver also needs a defensive minded PG who doesn't care much about scoring to pair with Iverson, Sacramento too...PGs type of Marbury, Telfair, Bibby, Foye, Francis are out of fashion, don't you see that? nobody wants them, they are only good for your fantasy teams

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lol, yeah, that's why we won. Didn't have anything to do with Rashad scoring 33, Jefferson 23, or Walker 17. It was those amazing 9 points and 3 assists in 25 minutes from Marko that put the team over the top.
you kids have to understand that real basketball is not fantasy basketball, stats are just like a bikini, it shows everything but it doesn't reveal anything. Don't give me that **** McCants 33, Jefferson 23, Walker 17 and Jaric only 9, Marko was a big part of that win as much as Rashad, Walker and Al, he actually did put the team over the top with one big off. rebound, one steal, a def. rebound and a pass to McCants for an easy lay up, and couple of free throws..all that in last 2-3 minutes, those are the plays you need to do in order to finish the games.
And just one example, remember that play in the first half when Marko kicked the ball to stop 2 on 1 Kings fastbreak and probably 2 easy points, see, those kind of plays you don't see in the boxscore and Jaric does them very well...just an example
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Old 11-16-2007, 12:05 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Re: Game 6: Wolves (0-5) vs. Kings (2-5)

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really,Telfair-Jaric and you go with Telfair WOW..i'm pretty sure every sigle coach in the league would take Jaric with a broken leg over prime Telfair any time of the year. Just look around the league, Marbury got benched because they need a defensive minded PG who doesn't care much about scoring = Jaric, Denver also needs a defensive minded PG who doesn't care much about scoring to pair with Iverson, Sacramento too...PGs type of Marbury, Telfair, Bibby, Foye, Francis are out of fashion, don't you see that? nobody wants them, they are only good for your fantasy teams

you kids have to understand that real basketball is not fantasy basketball, stats are just like a bikini, it shows everything but it doesn't reveal anything. Don't give me that **** McCants 33, Jefferson 23, Walker 17 and Jaric only 9, Marko was a big part of that win as much as Rashad, Walker and Al, he actually did put the team over the top with one big off. rebound, one steal, a def. rebound and a pass to McCants for an easy lay up, and couple of free throws..all that in last 2-3 minutes, those are the plays you need to do in order to finish the games.
And just one example, remember that play in the first half when Marko kicked the ball to stop 2 on 1 Kings fastbreak and probably 2 easy points, see, those kind of plays you don't see in the boxscore and Jaric does them very well...just an example
I doubt that coaches will take jaric over telfair. jaric may be more valuable because he can play 2-3 spots, but hes mediocre at all 3.

One game, we know he has his 4-5 games a year where he plays well. he just sucks so bad in the rest.
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Old 11-16-2007, 01:24 PM   #93 (permalink)
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I doubt that coaches will take jaric over telfair.
Unless by "coach," you mean "person watching TV who is impressed when someone throws behind-the-back pass," I doubt you'd find more than half a dozen coaches who would choose Telfair over Jaric for a team, assuming there were no contract issues taken into consideration. (Obviously, Jaric is overpaid relative to his NBA production; and Telfair is not only cheap, but expiring. Those things play into the real world.)

Last night, Barkley was discussing Marbury and said something I loved. He said something like this: when Stephon was coming out of Ga. Tech, everyone was amazed at his physical abilities, saying "wow, when this kid gets it--really understands how to play--look out!" Then after five years, people start scratching their heads and saying, uh, why doesn't he get it yet? And now it's been 10 and he's still that same damn player, tantalizing in terms of skill, capable in terms of statistical production, but not a good basketball player. He still doesn't "get it." And if, after 10 years, he doesn't play the right way (and as Barkley said, if he couldn't play and get along with KG, of all people), he is never going to.

At some point, that will be the case with Telfair. It doesn't always come down to physical abilities, of which Telfair has many. Sometimes it comes down to doing the right thing on the court when taking into account your physical ability, your teammates physical abilities, game situation, etc. That is why I think most coaches would take the obviously inferior (in terms of quickness, handle, etc.) Jaric over Telfair. He understands basketball in a totally different way than Telfair. And the clock is running on Telfair. Third team in four years. Two teams totally gave up on him. He has value in the NBA, there's no question of that, but he has to play to maximize that value within his team's needs and his capabilities. Otherwise he'll be a shoot-first, shoot-badly point guard who will make the spectacular play sometimes, but screw it up even more.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:03 PM   #94 (permalink)
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Re: Game 6: Wolves (0-5) vs. Kings (2-5)

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you kids have to understand that real basketball is not fantasy basketball, stats are just like a bikini, it shows everything but it doesn't reveal anything. Don't give me that **** McCants 33, Jefferson 23, Walker 17 and Jaric only 9, Marko was a big part of that win as much as Rashad, Walker and Al, he actually did put the team over the top with one big off. rebound, one steal, a def. rebound and a pass to McCants for an easy lay up, and couple of free throws..all that in last 2-3 minutes, those are the plays you need to do in order to finish the games.
And just one example, remember that play in the first half when Marko kicked the ball to stop 2 on 1 Kings fastbreak and probably 2 easy points, see, those kind of plays you don't see in the boxscore and Jaric does them very well...just an example
A guy who loves Marko Jaric, of all players, questioning other people's basketball knowledge? Well now I've seen it all.

I never said that Marko didn't play good. But those other 3 guys had a bigger impact. McCants in particular. What did he have, like 14 points in the 4th quarter?

Marko played decent, but what do you expect when you come around here talking about him like a God when he has his one good game of the month?
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