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11-26-2007, 02:23 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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It's way too early to be worried about the draft. We will be in a position to land a top 3 pick and if the lottery does what it's supposed to do, we will get a top 3 pick. With that said I think there are a lot of studs in this draft. The unfortunate thing for us is that we already are loaded at the positions that are looking strong in the draft (combo guard). Hopefully we can land Beasley.
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How are we loaded at combo guard? We don't any good PGs. We have a couple of (so far) decent ones. I'm not passing on a stud combo PG just because we already have Foye and Telfair.
In truth, we aren't loaded at any position. We come the closest at PF, but even then I'd gladly draft Beasley if he's the best player available. Move Jefferson to center and have a Beasley/Jefferson frontcourt with Smith coming off the bench.
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11-26-2007, 02:27 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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Move Jefferson to center and have a Beasley/Jefferson frontcourt with Smith coming off the bench.
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That would be a lot of fun, but we'd definitely need a good PG then, to maximize their uptempo potential. Telfair might be that guy, in that he's a real PG and is quick. But I'd like to turn the keys over to someone who's averaged more than 3.6 apg so far in his career, and who didn't hover around a 2:1 A/TO ratio.
Still, a Telfair-McCants-Brewer-Beasley-Jefferson with Foye as backup to both Gs and Smith as backup post would potentially be a lot of fun.
I'm still leaning toward Rose or Jordan. But of course it's not up to me anyway, so I can lean as far in any direction as I want.
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11-26-2007, 07:54 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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We need another wing, and have a strong chance in drafting a superior PG this summer.
Foye hasn't done enough so far to warrant anything better than Childress (who's an underrated player).
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They wouldn't give up Foye for Iverson. I'm not saying Foye has proven much of anything, but there's zero chance the Wolves would do a deal like that.
As for the draft, personally I'm not too worried about it yet. Way too far away for me to be thinking about it. The one thing I'll say is that I'm a huge Rose fan.
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11-26-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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How are we loaded at combo guard? We don't any good PGs. We have a couple of (so far) decent ones. I'm not passing on a stud combo PG just because we already have Foye and Telfair.
In truth, we aren't loaded at any position. We come the closest at PF, but even then I'd gladly draft Beasley if he's the best player available. Move Jefferson to center and have a Beasley/Jefferson frontcourt with Smith coming off the bench.
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Well what would be the point of drafting Eric Gordon, OJ Mayo when we have 2 of our 3 best players already having similar playing styles.
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11-26-2007, 09:54 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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The problem with that would be that he projects as a 4/3 in the pros, meaning he's up against Al Jefferson, Corey Brewer and Ryan Gomes as alleged building blocks for the future. That isn't to say that he couldn't start alongside Jefferson and push Brewer and Gomes to the bench (where at least Gomes probably belongs anyway), but it wouldn't plug our gaping holes: it's a center or a true point I think we need.
So I'd lean toward Derrick Rose or DeAndre Jordan, if one is available.
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To be brutally frank, I don't think that you guys will re-sign Gomes this summer, and probably shouldn't. He just isn't very good, and last year (here in Boston) was a spoiled little whiner with a sense of entitlement. It's like he convinced himself that he was playing for the Mavericks or something. He's one of those guys that could be a useful roleplayer if he knew his place in the NBA and worked his *** off to keep it, but he's come down with a severe case of Szczerbiak's Syndrome.
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11-27-2007, 06:35 AM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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To be brutally frank, I don't think that you guys will re-sign Gomes this summer
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They've publicly discussed it as a priority. Since the trade, the team has frequently said they plan to build around the "young core," and named Jefferson, Foye, McCants, Brewer and Gomes.
I think he's fine--definitely a nice guy to have. But if he wants anything near the midlevel I'd let him walk.
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11-27-2007, 03:45 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
Gomes had 1 pretty good year when he was given heavy playing time. He hasn't been good for us this year. I think they're playing him out of position at the 3. I don't think he has a future here just because he's not a good enough 3 and there are better players at the 4 already. I'd trade him at the deadline.
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11-27-2007, 04:10 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
I could probably find out if I wasn't soo lazy, but what picks do we own in this draft?
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11-27-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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I could probably find out if I wasn't soo lazy, but what picks do we own in this draft?
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We don't know yet. We get to keep the one we eventually have to send to the LA Clippers from the Cassell/Jaric deal, conditionally, but I don't recall the protection for this season. Last year it was top 10 protected, so I'd assume it's less--top 5 or something, maybe?
Then if Miami makes the playoffs, we get their first-rounder in the Davis/Blount for Walker deal.
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11-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
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This is very true. And worse, I don't think it's just a McHale thing. It's a cold-weather state with a mid-sized market. We couldn't draw free agents of note to play alongside Kevin Garnett, so to think we can do so without him is probably overly optimistic.
That's my problem with just hording cap space. Historically around the league, unless you're an LA team, a Florida team or NY, it's only moderately valuable. Smaller-market teams still end up greatly overpaying players just to get them to sign. The way to build this team is going to have to be primarily through the draft and trades, with free agents being signed more on a limited--to fill strategic needs--basis (i.e., a shooter, a backup big, etc.). To do that, we need to manage the cap and avoid those terrible situations like the past few years, but we don't need to get $20 million in cap room only to find all we can do is sign second- or third-tier players with it. (Can't you just see McHale and Taylor giving a 5-year, $50 million deal to the likes of JR Smith?)
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Good post.
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12-03-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
Because of my love for Randy Foye, and the hope he can run this team. I would pick Beasley and DeAndre Jordan.
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12-04-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
Well its looking more and more like we will end up in a top 5 position, which is exactly what we need now.... a franchise guy.
Personally i think Beasley is the stud of the draft, or thats what its looking like... then Mayo/Rose, and other than that we should be looking big as ive said, so Hibbert, Jordan etc all come into the equation.
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12-20-2007, 09:53 AM
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Re: I'm worried about the Draft
I think going with a guy like Rose would be the best option. A combo guard backcourt would be amazing. Nap a center via the MIA pick or Free Agency in the future... Or you have Jefferson at C and smith at PF which has been working for the most part.
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