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Mateo · 11-23-2007, 11:13 AM

If karma is on our side McHale will get fired in December/January and Hoiberg will be promoted to lead GM. If that happens we have some tough choices to make as far as the draft goes.

Our biggest weakness right now is the gaping hole at center. Now, I've said for a while that Jefferson is perfectly capable of playing there, but the team doesn't seem to agree. Should we draft DeAndre Jordan? He can play center.

On the other hand, we seem to be tanking by playing our crappy veterans and not the young guys (specifically Smith, Green, and Brewer). So unless karma goes against us (which only happens if McHale stays as GM), we're going to be in the Derrick Rose / Michael Beasley discussion.

Can we really pass up on a special talent like Rose to feel a "need" at center.... one that we don't really "need" that much since already have Jefferson. Here's a scenario I like at the trading deadline:

Foye comes back in December and - since his only competition is Telfair and Jaric - he puts up decent enough numbers. At the trading deadline we use him as bait for a team with a need at PG.... I'm thinking the Atlanta Hawks who are loaded at the SF position but have nothing much at PG. We pawn off Foye for Josh Childress (who's going to be getting few minutes with the emergence of Marvin Williams). Then we draft Rose and have a future lineup of:

Rose / Telfair
McCants / Green
Childress / Brewer / Gomes
Smith / Gomes / Jefferson
Jefferson / gaping hole

Thoughts?

**Avalanche** · 11-23-2007, 11:18 AM

If we get a top 3 pick its Beasley/Mayo/Rose ... yes we are thin (empty) at center but those three are the clear top talents as far as im concerned.

Jefferson seems to struggle a bit at center, but a Beasley/Jefferson Front court with Smith backing them up would definately be worth a try.

As would a main 3 guard rotation of Foye/Mccants and either Mayo or Rose.

Outside of a top 3 pick i think we should draft a true center like hibbert, Jordan etc

Mateo · 11-23-2007, 11:25 AM

I'm not touching Mayo with a 10 foot pole. He's Isiah Rider redux. I'm not going through that again.

**bruno34115** · 11-23-2007, 11:41 AM

WTF? Foye for Josh Childress? No thank you man.

Mateo · 11-23-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bruno34115

WTF? Foye for Josh Childress? No thank you man.

We need another wing, and have a strong chance in drafting a superior PG this summer.

Foye hasn't done enough so far to warrant anything better than Childress (who's an underrated player).

**moss_is_1** · 11-23-2007, 12:45 PM

Man, I'm confused about what I want in this draft..
Rose is looking like the best, and Bringing Foye off the bench or maybe trying to trade him for a Center, if Telfair can play well.
PG-Rose-Telfair-Jaric
SG-McCants-Green-Jaric
SF-Brewer-Gomes-Green
PF-Jeffeson-Smith-Walker
C-?? Idk who we could get in a trade for foye.
OR we still have the Heats pick if they make the playoffs, so we could get some sort of sg-sf tweener to play since the coaches don't seem too high on green, or another center since ratliff might some cheap to play with a contender and madesen and doleac blow.

**moss_is_1** · 11-23-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mateo

We need another wing, and have a strong chance in drafting a superior PG this summer.

Foye hasn't done enough so far to warrant anything better than Childress (who's an underrated player).

I don't think we really need another wing yet, we need a center more-so than a wing. Buckner is decent for us till his contract is up and then we will have some cap to sign a nice player.

Mateo · 11-23-2007, 12:53 PM

That's why I had us trading him for a wing, I don't think any team would give up a young, good, center for him. But a wing is possible, especially with how loaded the Hawks are at that position.

dropkickmeltinjohns · 11-23-2007, 10:16 PM

I say the wolves will be picking 4th or so. The league won't want them in the top tier drafting slots. I see Mchale taking Beasley at least. OJ Mayo I also wouldn't want to the guy who said that. He is gonna be Marbury 2.
I say best bets for Wolves in order:

#1, Derrick Rose
#2, Eric Gordon
#3, Deandre Jordan
#4, Michael Beasley
#5, Roy Hibbert

How much you wanna bet Mchale picks Hibbert over one of these other guys if he gets pick 4 or even pick 3!

KG4MVP2 · 11-24-2007, 03:18 PM

We need to get Beasley even if that means trading up or w/e if we dont get him or rose i will be mad!!

:so apbox:

luther · 11-24-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dropkickmeltinjohns

I say the wolves will be picking 4th or so. The league won't want them in the top tier drafting slots.

The league conspiracy theories have got to go. I mean, please...

As for the Wolves' draft, I'm a little nervous, but no more so than every year. And it's far too early to be worried about who fits in where, considering we have yet to see this young team play a single game all together. (No Foye, Green has missed a lot of time, Brewer's minutes have been spotty lately after his oversleeping discipline the other day, McCants missed time, Telfair missed time, etc.)

If anything, I'm optimistic that there are likely to be good players at every position from which to choose, so no matter what we need to do, we ought to have a decent option.

(If we have a top three pick, though, I'm partial to Derrick Rose or DeAndre Jordan. The former gives the team the true top-level PG it does not have (sorry, Bassy) and the latter offers a potential defensive-minded center who can run with the other guys, and whose defensive orientation shouldn't get in the way of Jefferson's post offense.)

The King of the World · 11-26-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by moss_is_1

Buckner is decent for us till his contract is up and then we will have some cap to sign a nice player.

The problem with that is that no one will want to sign with us. You remember how no free agents would take Chicago's money while Jerry Krause was still GM (post-MJ era, of course)? No one is going to sign with Minny while McHale is still there, showing little interest in building a contender.

luther · 11-26-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The King of the World

The problem with that is that no one will want to sign with us. You remember how no free agents would take Chicago's money while Jerry Krause was still GM (post-MJ era, of course)? No one is going to sign with Minny while McHale is still there, showing little interest in building a contender.

This is very true. And worse, I don't think it's just a McHale thing. It's a cold-weather state with a mid-sized market. We couldn't draw free agents of note to play alongside Kevin Garnett, so to think we can do so without him is probably overly optimistic.

That's my problem with just hording cap space. Historically around the league, unless you're an LA team, a Florida team or NY, it's only moderately valuable. Smaller-market teams still end up greatly overpaying players just to get them to sign. The way to build this team is going to have to be primarily through the draft and trades, with free agents being signed more on a limited--to fill strategic needs--basis (i.e., a shooter, a backup big, etc.). To do that, we need to manage the cap and avoid those terrible situations like the past few years, but we don't need to get $20 million in cap room only to find all we can do is sign second- or third-tier players with it. (Can't you just see McHale and Taylor giving a 5-year, $50 million deal to the likes of JR Smith?)

**bruno34115** · 11-26-2007, 11:06 AM

It's way too early to be worried about the draft. We will be in a position to land a top 3 pick and if the lottery does what it's supposed to do, we will get a top 3 pick. With that said I think there are a lot of studs in this draft. The unfortunate thing for us is that we already are loaded at the positions that are looking strong in the draft (combo guard). Hopefully we can land Beasley.

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