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01-01-2008, 05:51 PM
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Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
Any realistic fan knew this year would be difficult, record-wise. But with 30 games gone, we are 4-26, which is four wins fewer than the next-worst teams.
1. Is it worse than you expected it would be?
2. If everyone were basically healthy all season (no Foye injury, no Ratliff injury, fewer of the seemingly constant strings of other injuries), how much better could we be now?
3. Prediction time: what will our record be?
For me:
1. Yes.
2. I think we could have a doubled win total right now, maybe even slightly more.
3. At season's end, I believe we will have shown significant improvement. If Foye returns and the others stop missing so many one-off games, we can get a little consistency. We'll end up 15-67.
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01-01-2008, 06:06 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
It is a lot worse than i thought, the play has been downright ugly pretty consistantly.
I definately think we would be a lot closer to 10 wins with Foye alone, we have gotten close to teams but have been unable to finish, once he gets his game legs under him again we will be a much improved team.
i think we'll make 20-62.... yuck
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01-01-2008, 06:12 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
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i think we'll make 20-62.... yuck
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You think we're going to go 16-36 the rest of the way? Wow, if we can win one of every three games from here on, it'll feel like a championship season.
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01-01-2008, 07:28 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
Can Ratliff still play ball? He hasn't been relevant for about a season and a half now.
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01-01-2008, 07:32 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
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Originally Posted by Chan
Can Ratliff still play ball? He hasn't been relevant for about a season and a half now.
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He looked really energetic and valuable very early this season, but just underwent yet another knee surgery. I think it's safe to say he will never be anywhere near the player he once was, if he even decides to keep playing (elsewhere). His body just hasn't been kind to him.
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01-01-2008, 08:03 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
1. Yes.
2. More games than where we should be right now. We had some close games but we can't finish.
3. 15-67 is about right, but if bad lucks continue till to the end, as many wins as 10, 11, 12 at best for them.
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01-01-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
Win total will largely fall on how well Foye can come back, teams will start to completely overlook the wolves and come into games un-prepared, injuries will affect other clubs aswell..
While we have played terribly we have also been rather unlucky... i think we will sqeak out a few more wins and at least get close to 20
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01-02-2008, 05:09 AM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
It hasn't dawned on you that the Wolves are tanking the season?
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01-02-2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
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It hasn't dawned on you that the Wolves are tanking the season?
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Tanking in terms of playing younger guys and moving people who are more likely to win individual games without fitting into the long-term solution? Obviously: they've made moves that will hurt them in the short term in the hope that the young guys will develop into better answers (and that they'll get another nice pick or two along the way).
Tanking in terms of losing any individual game on purpose by not giving a legit effort? Obviously not. These players are trying; they're just not good enough (and sometimes lucky enough) to win very often. And by the way, anyone who tanks that way ought to be banned from the league.
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01-02-2008, 09:46 AM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
^ Also, if we have Mark Madsen to shoot from downtown about 7 times, then it is considered tanking.
Tanking is remotely happening from this team, IMO. I don't see them really giving up on themselves. Not yet. If they do, we would not be able to watch close games but resulting in losses, the players would care less about the game and their stats will drop significantly, and the coach will not care like he was going to say, "that's it" and sit down and quitting on the team.
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01-02-2008, 11:28 AM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
As a Celtic fan, this is no surprise. You're basically taking the awful Celtics team from last year, and replacing Pierce with Randy Foye and Corey Brewer.
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01-02-2008, 11:51 AM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
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Originally Posted by Chan
Can Ratliff still play ball? He hasn't been relevant for about a season and a half now.
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I think it depends on if it is a contract year or not, he has also been sidelined with something for most of the season. I'm suprised that he hasn't returned yet to prove that he is worth and extension yet.
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01-02-2008, 11:56 AM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
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Originally Posted by HOWIE
I think it depends on if it is a contract year or not, he has also been sidelined with something for most of the season. I'm suprised that he hasn't returned yet to prove that he is worth and extension yet.
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He had a torn meniscus. It's not like he faked it and convinced a doctor to open him up and dig around in there just for show. It's interesting how fans think players ought to be super-heroes just because they're highly paid. People get hurt, especially when the very essence of their jobs is beating up their bodies.
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01-02-2008, 01:15 PM
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Re: Is It Worse Than You Thought It Would Be?
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He had a torn meniscus. It's not like he faked it and convinced a doctor to open him up and dig around in there just for show. It's interesting how fans think players ought to be super-heroes just because they're highly paid. People get hurt, especially when the very essence of their jobs is beating up their bodies.
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I have never said that Theo Ratiff is a superhero, he is highly paid because of his play during contract years, he has never really proven that he is worth the money after getting the contract signed.
Teams sign him in hopes that he'll produce only to use him as trade filler later. I'd think that Minnesota would be better served to let his contract expire and use that cap space on a productive player.
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