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Old 01-26-2008, 07:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Gerald Green wants a trade

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...wants_a_trade/

Well, it seems that he isn't in Minnesota plans, but 'Sota can trade him for who? Use him in a trade to clear long term contracts? (like Madsen and/or Jaric contracts)

Shannon Brown (Cleveland need a shooter) or even JR Smith (who I can't see him being part of George Karl plans) may turn into trade options.

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Old 01-26-2008, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

I read that this morning on Hoopshype--apparently his agent (Byron Irvin, former 1st rounder, right?) told the Boston Globe that he requested a trade earlier this month.

Your idea of packaging him to clear off one of our worse contracts is a good one. I can't see using him to unload Jaric unless we get another guy who can play PG in return, because even if Foye comes back, we're thin at that spot. But Madsen--for sure. I'd say Green and Madsen for Charlie Bell, but I don't believe a restricted free agent whose contract was matched can be dealt for one year, meaning Bell (who signed a Miami offer sheet) can't be traded.

What about the same duo, Green and Madsen, to Chicago for Chris Duhon (who gives us a true PG who can play some D and hit the 3, not to mention who comes off the books and thus helps us retain flexibility) and maybe one of Chicago's other cheaper players, if they want to remain even in roster spots--Gray, Curry, Nichols, etc.

Buckner and Green to Seattle for Ridnour? That's more expensive for us, but would also help solidify the PG spot here, especially if we intend to play Jefferson at C, as we have been, and run with a smaller lineup.

If we're not packaging him to unload worse deals or to improve our roster, though, I say don't do Green the favor. He comes off our books in a few months anyway, so it's not like he can sabotage the team longer-term by pouting.
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Old 01-26-2008, 07:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Shannon Brown (Cleveland need a shooter) or even JR Smith (who I can't see him being part of George Karl plans) may turn into trade options.

Thoughts?
By the way, I absolutely have zero interest in acquiring either of those two players. Not even for free. Brown is a (relatively) unskilled, positionless, somewhat undersized athlete. Smith is Ricky Davis, and we already got rid of him.
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Old 01-26-2008, 11:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

If we can use him to trade Jaric and get a slightly shorter contract back im all for it.

Unless we could get Sene
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

Green's not going to net anything. He's not that good. I wouldn't be surprised if he's out of the league in two years.
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

Patrick O'Bryant maybe.... David Harrison

Maybe just a second round pick and part of a trade exeption from GS or Seattle
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If we can use him to trade Jaric and get a slightly shorter contract back im all for it.

Unless we could get Sene
Sure, why not. He's not doing anything for us. You can have Petro and Gelebale too.

Green's value is as low as it gets. He's the 06-07 Sebastian Telfair of this year. Last year Telfair was the worst player on the worst team. This year it's Gerald Green. He looks like he doesn't know how to play basketball.
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Old 01-26-2008, 03:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

Well yeah pretty much, the potential is there but hes not getting run here and the coaches dont think its likely he ever will... May aswell see if he can get some spot minutes in Seattle while we make a few minutes here for one of their big men and see if they can develop
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

Hows Gerald's defence? Decent-good? Horrible..?
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Hows Gerald's defence? Decent-good? Horrible..?
It's pretty bad. When he tries he still isn't very good but his problem is he doesn't focus. He will make a big play on offense and then he will celebrate and forget to get back on defense, or he will make a bad play and get down on himself.
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He's one of those over athletic guys that looks good on Defence for a play or two... but will then dis-appear, all round hes pretty bad on the defensive end.
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Gerald Green doesn't know how to spell defense.
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

Yeah, it all can be pretty terrible ... but then you think about how some of those issues still exist with third-year pro Rashad McCants, who played three years of college ball. And Green would be in his third year of college NOW. I think most of us have become absolutely blind to the time it takes most qualified players to develop into legit NBA players. (By qualified, I mean guys who have the skill and.or athleticism to be worth giving a shot.) Sam Mitchell was recently quoted about Bargnani saying similar things--that when he [Mitchell] came into the league, it wasn't uncommon for people to give rookies--including first-rounders--a couple of seasons at least before criticizing them much. Well, Green has had 2.5 years in the league, but came out of high school, which didn't happen when Mitchell came in the league in '89-'90.

There are plenty of examples of guys who took longer than that to find a niche. Sometimes it's extreme, like Anthony Parker, who had to go overseas for half a decade before he was ready. Other times you get guys like Steve Nash, who went from role player to OK starter to good to great. Boris Diaw looked pretty awful in Atlanta, but was reborn in a new system. The list goes on forever. Not everyone pans out, but to judge a guy's entire future when he's 20 or 21 based on what he did in the preceding two years is pretty harsh.

I still think the Wolves made a mistake in passing on his fourth-year option, regardless of whether he becomes a good player. He has proved (last season, when he was a double digit scorer as a teenager) that he has a place in the NBA. Where exactly that place is, I'd have been willing to pay the $2.2 million to find out.
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Re: Gerald Green wants a trade

So.. he's pretty much JR Smith..?
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