Foye's not good enough to base your draft decisions on how it will affect him. I don't know what it is about this guy that still has so many people infatuated, but scoring few points on bad percentage, and getting laughably bad numbers of assists is not something that's going to make me stop and say "hmm, maybe we shouldn't draft a stud like Rose". Draft Rose and let Foye be whatever it is that's he's going to be. Time to stop coddling him (and McCants) and make them earn their spot in the rotation, whatever spot that might be.
If we can we have to pick Beasley. He could play some sf with pf and Al can play some center. Then Try and sign a veteran free agent center next year when some of the contracts come off the books..
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You take Beasley, then Rose, in that order. Don't worry about who's already on the team. Look at our record and then explain to me why we shouldn't take the best player available, regardless of position. A team this bad obviously doesn't have enough talent to worry about how a player will fit into the current lineup; the current lineup stinks (as evidenced by the record).
Al measured 3/4 of an inch taller with 2.5" bigger wingspan at his pre-draft... I'm sure Beasley isn't anywhere close to as heavy either.
I do think MB has the handles and the outside shot to be an excellent NBA 3 and that he's the obvious choice if Mini were to get the #1
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You take Beasley, then Rose, in that order. Don't worry about who's already on the team. Look at our record and then explain to me why we shouldn't take the best player available, regardless of position. A team this bad obviously doesn't have enough talent to worry about how a player will fit into the current lineup; the current lineup stinks (as evidenced by the record).
While I'm not 100% behind you in the order of those top two, I do think your main point is right on: you take the best player available. Even good teams probably shouldn't draft for position-need over talent, and there is no way a team as bad as this Minnesota team should do so. It would be nice to get that perfect fit, but it's not worth reaching for. Personally, I'd probably take Rose first overall, and I happen to believe he does work position-wise, too, as I am still not convinced Foye is the PG of the future for this team (more likely a combo, either off the bench or in a 3-guard type lineup). And if you decide Beasley is the guy, you go with him. Maybe Al plays center again, like he has most of this year. Frankly, if you look at the reality of the league, he's not particularly undersized, and the position suits his game. Or maybe you find another center and play a bigger lineup, with Beasley at 3.
Either way, the last thing you want to do is say "oh, we need a center" and pass up the top players just to take, say, Hibbert or Jordan. (I love the latter, by the way, but not with a really high pick this season.) Ask the Raptors (and Rafael Araujo) about that.
I think we need to work on getting a pick in the late teens, early twenties aswell and pick up a center there...
History is not on our side there. I just went through the past 20 drafts, reviewing the first round centers from pick 15 through the end of the round (which varied based on year, of course, as the league expanded). Wow. It's pretty bad. Only four of those years provided two centers who eventually gained regular starting jobs--and I don't mean star, featured centers, but just that the guys became regular starters. Several drafts didn't have a single regularly starting center in that range of picks.
Below is a subjective list of the top guys from each year.
1988: Mark Bryant (21st pick)
1989: Vlade Divac (26)
1990: Elden Campbell (27)
1991: Stanley Roberts (23)
1992: Oliver Miller (22)
1993: Ervin Johnson (23)
1994: Dicky Simpkins (21)
1995: Theo Ratliff (18) (Also Greg Ostertag)
1996: Jermaine O'Neal (17)
1997: Kelvin Cato (15)
1998: Rasho Nesterovic (17) (Also Nazr Mohammed)
1999: Jeff Foster (21)
2000: Jamal Magloire (19) (Also Primoz Brezec)
2001: Samuel Dalembert (26) (Also Brendan Haywood)
2002: Nenad Krstic (24)
2003: Kendrick Perkins (27)
2004: David Harrison (29)
2005: Johan Petro (25)
2006: Josh Boone (26)
2007: Tiago Splitter (28)
In short, banking on a legitimate center in that range of picks doesn't seem wise. However, in more recent years, using that pick on international players was a decent strategy.
The Aussies havnt gotten much press, a pick in the early twenties for Ogilvy, or late twenties for Jawai may be well worth a look... i may be a little biased but they are legit 5's and could work out well here
The Aussies havnt gotten much press, a pick in the early twenties for Ogilvy, or late twenties for Jawai may be well worth a look... i may be a little biased but they are legit 5's and could work out well here
Or maybe they'd be the next version of the last Aussie center taken in the late 1st round: Chris Anstey!
Seriously, I've only seen highlights of Jawai, and haven't been impressed by those. But highlights are virtually worthless. And I've only seen one game of Ogilvy, so I can't say there, either. But I'd hope he'd stay in college.
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