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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
If you steal the #1 pick, and Beasley is still the consensus #1 pick, is there any real chance you pass up on Beasley?
I don't mean the possibility of trading down, but would you consider drafting any of the guards with the 1st pick ahead of Beasley cause it would mean playing Al at center?
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03-09-2008, 09:30 AM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
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If you steal the #1 pick, and Beasley is still the consensus #1 pick, is there any real chance you pass up on Beasley?
I don't mean the possibility of trading down, but would you consider drafting any of the guards with the 1st pick ahead of Beasley cause it would mean playing Al at center?
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Most of the season I'd have said yes, I'd take Rose #1. I don't care that history says you don't take a smaller guard at #1, and I don't care about positions of need with the Wolves (that's all we have are needs...). I just thought Rose was the best player. However, Beasley has won me over to a great extent. I'm still not sold on him 100%, but it's getting there.
While it wouldn't play into my decision whether to draft him, if we did draft him, I think he could play alongside Jefferson, too. You could certainly go small and run Jefferson in the middle and Beasley at PF. And if/as Beasley improves his ball-handling and middle game, he could shift to SF. (While he shoots from deep pretty well, I haven't yet been impressed with the other perimeter skills--handling, smart passing, etc.)
A lineup--assuming we re-sign certain players--of Telfair, Foye, Brewer, Beasley and Jefferson, with McCants and Gomes as the first guys off the bench, would be interesting. (I don't think we'll be able to re-sign Smith. We won't want to spend the money on a player who is one-dimensional, with the dimension being one filled by our current best player.)
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03-09-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Jefferson is a liability on defense when he plays center. That's no good.
This situation still sucks.
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03-09-2008, 09:57 AM
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Jefferson is a liability on defense when he plays center. That's no good.
This situation still sucks.
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Well the situation is going to suck regardless: one player--no mater who--from this draft isn't going to make this a championship team. But a Beasley-Jefferson frontcourt is one that can outscore a lot of frontcourts. (Yes, that's a projection for Beasley, and I know he'd have to improve to be able to take the physical pounding he'd get from NBA 4s. But he has the size, athleticism and talent, at least.)
And what's more, defense is something that can be learned.
Jefferson has improved dramatically on defense this season, and he is a hard worker. It's the easy cliche to say he's bad on that end, but watch him game-to-game and you see the improvement. And with his size and wingspan, he's not terribly undersized (just a little so). If the team goes uptempo, I don't think he'd have issues that can't be corrected with continued improvement. Beasley would probably be a bigger defensive liability than Jefferson, at least at first.
The only guy who can really help interior defense would be DeAndre Jordan, and he's not really ready to be all that effective in the NBA right away, either. Otherwise you're looking at Hibbert, who I think would get killed, and Lopez, who's a decent shot-blocker but not someone I'd consider an NBA stopper in the middle, either.
You have to take the best talent and trust that players will improve with coaching. And for all the **** people give Wittman and his staff, Telfair, Brewer, McCants and Jefferson are all much better players than they were at the beginning of the season.
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03-14-2008, 11:57 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Hmm, if Beasley really is so disruptive to our lineup, which I doubt, trade him and Walker for a center.
Maybe Okafor and Ray Felton, put a "ROSE" on Felton's jersey.
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03-15-2008, 08:12 AM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Nice game from Foye tonight, showing what he can do...
sorry bout the lack of game threads lately boys. new job and havnt got net access yet
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03-20-2008, 01:22 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Lopez is looking more and more like Jefferson's running mate.
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03-20-2008, 04:14 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
As Foye gets healthy and in game shape, he continues to make me a believer that he's a key piece of our rebuilding team ... but not the primary PG. Maybe a starting SG. Maybe a combo with another combo (as Jaric is doing now) beside him. But I just don't see him running a true PG spot. It's not his game, and he's at his best when he's looking to score (at least at this stage of his career).
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03-20-2008, 06:11 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Foye/Mayo back court is still the best case scenario for this team IMO...
Mccants is one of my favourite players but if he has to turn into a star somewhere else he may have good trade value for the wolves in the off-season
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03-22-2008, 09:13 AM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
I really like drafting Mayo, especially if we can trade some stuff for a later pick. Plenty of big men we could look at then too.
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03-22-2008, 10:11 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
I still get that feeling that out of this class Mayo is the most likely to become a Kobe/Wade type of player (not saying he will, nor that his style is anything like those guys but just potentially)
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03-26-2008, 08:14 AM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
I like what I have seen from Brook's brother, Robin.
He could be a atheltic stopper next to Al.
Draft O.J. and trade both 2nd rounders to grab Robin?
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03-30-2008, 12:24 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Robin has been real solid. He would be a 7 foot Varejao next to Jefferson. I think he is the one for us after Mayo. Those 2 picks would be perfect for me.
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03-30-2008, 12:25 PM
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Re: My Randy Foye dilemma
Grabbing R. Lopez late would be nice. As for OJ Mayo, not for me.
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