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Old 04-30-2008, 05:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2008 NBA Draft



Personally I think we should go after Michael Beasley, he seems like a Carmelo Anthony type player. I can't wait to see how he plays on the NBA level.

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Old 05-02-2008, 03:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 2008 NBA Draft

Little excited about the draft? lol
Beasley is going to be very good, but he plays the same position as Big Al really, so I think Derrick Rose should be the pick and then move foye to the off guard, if we are able to get him that is.lol
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've been thinking that I'd like to trade our pick unless we get the 1 or 2, because there aren't any guys after that I consider standouts. This looks to me like a deep draft in terms of capable players, but short on probable--even potential--stars. And the guys projected to be around in that 3-7 range, guys like Bayless, Mayo, Gordon, Lopez, they don't do it for me.

There are always teams who fall in love with a guy in workouts and want to move up to get him. I'd love to trade the #4 pick (or whatever we end up with) for, say, Zaza Pachulia, next year's first and a future second. Pachulia seems like a guy who could be a great complement to Al, not demanding shots, playing tough D, hustling, rebounding, etc. And at $4 million, he's cheap.

Or I'd like to package the pick with Antoine Walker (expiring deal) and pick up a more legitimate big. Depending on what direction we go with our various wings, such a deal could also include someone like McCants. (For example, if we're truly committed to Foye, Brewer and re-signing Snyder, then McCants could add value in a trade.)

It just seems like it's too easy to get excited about such a high pick, when in reality there's a good chance that player is a) a non-point G/F, which we don't need and b) not going to be more than a non-starring contributor anyway.
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woah man.... the hawks just made the playoffs, your gonna trade a number 4 pick for zaza and a non-lottery pick? no thanks.
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woah man.... the hawks just made the playoffs, your gonna trade a number 4 pick for zaza and a non-lottery pick? no thanks.
Yes. The 4 is going to be an average player, and a guard at that. Zaza is a proven 12-and-8 kind of guy when he plays a lot of minutes. And the pick is a future first, as they don't have one this year. I'd also ask for more--maybe another second or something.
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still.. the hawks arent going to be any worse then they are right now, so its a 15th pick at absolute best.

Mayo could well still be there at 4
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Rose if we can, it's too good to pass up.

Next on the list is Mayo, and I like his fit more than Rose.
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still.. the hawks arent going to be any worse then they are right now, so its a 15th pick at absolute best.

Mayo could well still be there at 4
Mayo is one of the main reasons I want to trade out. To me, he's what I always think of as a stereotypical Clipper. A guy who is talented, but for reasons I can't put my finger on, I just don't trust that he's ever going to do anything to help his team win games. He's going to come into the league and have nice statistics, but be a loser. He belongs on the Clippers. If we get him, I seriously can't imagine being a fan.
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and yet as far as i can tell... he is the one who has the potential to be a franchise leader... a kobe/wade etc , im not predicting that by any stretch but the raw talent is there, i think hes too good to pass up
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Trading the #4 pick(Mayo) for Zaza Pachulia, will probably almost be on the level of trading Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac.....why on Earth would you want do something stupid like that....??
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Trading the #4 pick(Mayo) for Zaza Pachulia, will probably almost be on the level of trading Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac.....why on Earth would you want do something stupid like that....??
First of all, I didn't say 4 for Zaza, I said our pick (which could be anywhere in the 3-6 range) for something else. One suggestion was something like Pachulia and a number one (and something else if possible). Second of all, you probably shouldn't downplay the importance of having someone like Pachulia--who averaged something like 11 and 8 for several years, is still quite young, fits perfectly alongside our franchise post player and would come cheaply in the future. Third of all, even saying Kobe and OJ Mayo near the same sentence should be outlawed. OJ Mayo is going to be Ricky Davis. I'd gladly--GLADLY--take even an 8-and-6 center and a mid-first rounder over him.
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First of all, I didn't say 4 for Zaza, I said our pick (which could be anywhere in the 3-6 range) for something else. One suggestion was something like Pachulia and a number one (and something else if possible). Second of all, you probably shouldn't downplay the importance of having someone like Pachulia--who averaged something like 11 and 8 for several years, is still quite young, fits perfectly alongside our franchise post player and would come cheaply in the future. Third of all, even saying Kobe and OJ Mayo near the same sentence should be outlawed. OJ Mayo is going to be Ricky Davis. I'd gladly--GLADLY--take even an 8-and-6 center and a mid-first rounder over him.
I don't think that saying Mayo will be like Ricky Davis deserves to be said either. Mayo isn't really like Davis. He actually plays defense and is a combo guard. Mayo probably could be the best player in this draft when its all done, closely followed by Rose.
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Old 05-07-2008, 02:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: 2008 NBA Draft

Yeah i dont really get it... with the wolves they need another star player next to jefferson, and they arent exactly going to sign one so the draft is the only option, and this pick is likely to be as high as the wolves will get.

Draft Mayo... trade one of foye/mccants for some decent big
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foye mayo and mccants all are twos. if you draft mayo you better have plans to make a deal. The T-wolves should look at the bottom of the first round for Ajinca. id trade with the nets. try and get say in the 8 to 11 range for one pick and the 21st for another from the nets. If Donte Greene is still available take him over Ajinca
The nets have devin harris as their future starting point guard. you could make the deal with the nets for the draft picks (your pick for their 2). you could take DeAndre Jordan and Alexis Ajinca. The nets likely will be looking for a shooting guard as they try and get younger (bye bye vince?). If I was the t-wolves id bring in marcus williams and their expiring contract (stro swift) for Marko Jaric and McCants. McCants is talented and you would have to give him up but if you do this you have Foye that can still start at two. Plus you get rid of jaric's contract for even more free agent cap space. Then you just have to try and move Buckner and Walker to trade...or work out some kind of buyout to save money. I doubt you could move madsen but id at least try.
Al Jefferson, Randy Foye, Corey Brewer, DeAndre Jordan, Marcus Williams, Alexis Ajinca or Donte Greene, plus your 2nd rounder. Basically you only have 7 guys under contract. Anyone else I signed would just be for the one year. I'd bring in some NBDL guys and some vets to fill out the rest of the team. quality locker room guys. austin croshere, quinton ross, kwame brown, kevin ollie, then add 2 or 3 nbdl guys. are you going to get your butts kicked? yep, but you get a legit point guard who is going to have a good year. you get two talented bigs in the process to develop. you also dump salary so you can go out and make some signings for 09.
KG is gone. I would go through the growing pains right. Develop some potiental Cs to go around Big Al. Trade for a young developing point guard. dump salary to get ready for 09 free agency. plus you will get another lotto pick next year. it would probably take you 2 or 3 years to get real competitive again, but it would work.
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