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Old 06-10-2008, 06:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Itís been five weeks since the one and only phone call my reps have gotten from Marvel. I know their hands are full with the Hulk and Iím sure they will get into it shortly, as they tell me they intend to. I ran into the Marvel guys at the Hulk premiere and everyone sounded eager to get to work on IM2.

I am concerned, however, about the announced release date of April 2010. Neither Robert nor I were consulted about this and we are both concerned about how realistic the date is in light of the fact that we have no script, story or even writers hired yet. This genre of movie is best when it is done thoughtfully and with plenty of preparation. It might be better to follow the BB/DK, X/X2 three year release pattern than to scramble for a date. It is difficult because there are no Marvel 09 releases and they need product, but I also think we owe it to the fans to have a great version of IM2 and, at this point, we would have less time to make it than the first one.
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This is scary because it seems like Marvel might be getting ahead of itself. They should worry about the movies being quality rather than having a property out every year.
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Re: Favreau on Ironman 2: "April 2010 release date unrealistic"

so true.. i hope marvel doesnt force out a bad movie just for the sake of getting something out
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Re: Favreau on Ironman 2: "April 2010 release date unrealistic"

Marvel is like any other business. Just trying to make a lot of money. Story be damned and can you blame them?
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This is a bad look Marvel. So he's not signed for the movie because he wants more than you're willing to offer? They actually expect him to come back for the same low amount despite having a mega success film which helped get the whole Marvel Films started right? They don't understand how it works, and I'm willing to say that these films that are planned to tie-in might be Nick Fury Agent of SHIELD and Generation-X quality films.

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Marvel Studios is sitting on top of the world with the recent success of Iron Man so far taking in over $535 million in worldwide box office receipts. So why hasn’t Marvel locked in Jon Favreau to direct the sequel Iron Man 2?

It's been known since the release of Iron Man that director Jon Favreau had not yet been officially signed on to direct Iron Man 2. Kevin Feige during our edit bay visit of the Incredible Hulk mentioned that they were in negotiations, several producers have confirmed the same to several different news outlets, so the question is why isn't he locked in yet?

About a week ago, the IESB was tipped off by a junior source at Marvel Studios that there had been some delays with Jon's negotiations regarding the sequel. When asked why I was told that Marvel and Favreau hadn't been able to come to terms regarding money.

At first I thought my source was full of **** and I dismissed it as a rumor. This last Friday I was contacted by another source at Marvel and this one, let's just say, is much higher up on the food chain, and told me that the chairman of Marvel Studios David Maisel who has been in charge of negotiating new terms with Favreau is being cheap and not willing to pay a fair directors' fee.

Favreau was a bargain to begin with, he is after all a fairly new director even though he has had several commercially successful films under his belt when he was brought aboard Iron Man for a steal.

Don't know exact numbers but I am sure that it wasn’t a Michael Bay/Brett Ratner/Bryan Singer paycheck. He had to prove himself after all and looking at what the box office and DVD sales are going to bring in, around $750-800 million, I'd say he did his job well, very well.

So according to our source at Marvel, Jon was expecting a moderate bump in his fee for the sequel but apparently Marvel has other plans.

Our source continues that Maisel believes Iron Man 2 will be a success regardless of Favreau's involvement and feels the studio does not need to pay Jon a higher fee for his services.

This is the most disappointing news that I have heard coming out of Hollywood in years, is Marvel out of their Vulcan mind?

So bottom line, Jon Favreau has not been locked in to direct Iron Man 2 for the simple reason that Marvel is being cheap - this is 100% accurate folks, no bull****.
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Also one thing that hasn't really been talked about on this board is how Marvel isn't really accounting for actors asking for more money. They'd run into some definite trouble since they aren't locking the cast, directors or anyone up for multiple movie deals so you'd definitely have people looking for more of a cut. Think Robert Downey Jr. would be cool receiving the same amount for both Iron Man films and Avengers or anyone else?
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Re: Favreau on Ironman 2: "April 2010 release date unrealistic"

Stupid move by Marvel to even contemplate replacing Favreau. Considering that Favreau was a big reason Downey Jr. became Iron Man in the first place, you think RDJ would be happy if Favreau got replaced??

Iron Man has become one of my fav movies and it'd really piss me off if they ruined the sequel because of money issues.
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Re: Favreau on Ironman 2: "April 2010 release date unrealistic"

Marvel will eventually win though because seriously, Favreau did a good job, but let's not act like he made the Ironman story. Marvel has more stories than anyone, if anyone wants to get technical, so if they don't want to pay him big bucks they can afford to play hardball.

I like both he and Robert Downey, but let's be real. They didn't create these characters, nor can they just assume someone is going to pay them 20 million to do something else. It doesn't work like that. When you are asked to do someone else's property this is the kind of stuff you have to deal with.

They will probably pay Downey Jr, but Favreau better be smart about this. It's better to do a second movie with 10 million, then angling for 15 million that doesn't come and now you're left with nothing but a dumb romantic comedy.
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Re: Favreau on Ironman 2: "April 2010 release date unrealistic"

They do have good stories, but let's not act like it can't be ****ed up big time. The 1st Hulk and Ghostrider are just two examples... He delivered, and he should get a pay increase.
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/\ Agreed. A lot of good stories can be ****ed up on the big screen. Just look what happened to X-Men when they had to switch directors to end off the trilogy.... X2 was one of the best superhero films to date and built so much momentum for X3, but Ratner just destroyed it. I'm still bitter about how crappy X3 was to this day.
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Marvel will eventually win though because seriously, Favreau did a good job, but let's not act like he made the Ironman story. Marvel has more stories than anyone, if anyone wants to get technical, so if they don't want to pay him big bucks they can afford to play hardball.

I like both he and Robert Downey, but let's be real. They didn't create these characters, nor can they just assume someone is going to pay them 20 million to do something else. It doesn't work like that. When you are asked to do someone else's property this is the kind of stuff you have to deal with.

They will probably pay Downey Jr, but Favreau better be smart about this. It's better to do a second movie with 10 million, then angling for 15 million that doesn't come and now you're left with nothing but a dumb romantic comedy.
You're probably not aware of Marvel's business history. If they can **** something up they can and will. You're throwing out numbers like $10 and $15 million but no numbers have been shown I'd really bet that the numbers he was given were lower.

Marvel has a ton of stories, but out of all those stories only a handful present viable movie properties. And I'm saying that as a guy with a huge Marvel bias.

What's showing now isn't good. Marvel is more concerned with dates of movie releases than actual quality. I mean.. Iron Man 2 hasn't even been written yet but they're telling us when it'll be out? They're already whispering that Thor will be in Iron Man 2, and a Thor movie will come out after that? With nothing written? That's how disasters like Spider-Man 3 happen.
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You're probably not aware of Marvel's business history. If they can **** something up they can and will. You're throwing out numbers like $10 and $15 million but no numbers have been shown I'd really bet that the numbers he was given were lower.

Marvel has a ton of stories, but out of all those stories only a handful present viable movie properties. And I'm saying that as a guy with a huge Marvel bias.

What's showing now isn't good. Marvel is more concerned with dates of movie releases than actual quality. I mean.. Iron Man 2 hasn't even been written yet but they're telling us when it'll be out? They're already whispering that Thor will be in Iron Man 2, and a Thor movie will come out after that? With nothing written? That's how disasters like Spider-Man 3 happen.
They went from Bryan Singer to Brett Ratner...and look how that turned out. Was that a financial thing?
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Marvel is such a weird company to work with.
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Speaking of Marvel, here's an interesting tidbit I found

Di Caprio as Capt. America and Pitt as Thor?

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The DiCaprio news comes close on the heels of reports that Brad Pitt tops the list to star in Marvel's Thor franchise (perhaps with pro wrestler Triple H filling in for the more muscled-up, hammer-wielding scenes).
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