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Old 12-02-2010, 06:59 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I haven't read the comics, but I think this series has been fantastic so far, especially the most recent episode, which did such a remarkable job of showing the true terror these people are going through.
I mean I could see that, but all fanboyism aside this show would have been ten times better had they just stuck to the storyline of the comic.

Whats baffling is that the comic is completely linear. It doesn't jump around and unlike most long running comic series there is only 1 monthly trade. With the source material being so uniquely self contained it was basically pre-storyboarded there just asking to be made as is. Yet for whatever reasons, like R Star said, they just started steering away from the plotpoints that allowed the original to be so succesful in the firstplace.

Why mess with such a good thing? I can totally accept minor changes and even major ones should that not undermine the qaulity of the program. With any adaptation certain things are going to need to be sacrificed. The thing is,the writers were given an ideal format here. One where those previously mentioned sacrifices could all but be avoided.

With an hour long, weekly series the focus should have been on improving the source's weaknesses while still telling what was an already engaging story. They missed the mark completely.There was no need to rush yet they went the A.D.D. route anyways.

Where they had to chance to beef up the dialogue and give existing characters more depth they chose instead to just add MORE characters. The would be tension and the resulting payoff are much cheaper having done so. Color me dissapointed, personally.
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Old 12-02-2010, 08:55 AM   #47 (permalink)
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If the first 2 Harry Potter films, or even Watchmen for that matter, has taught us anything, its that literal translations aren't a benefit, they're a detriment. These things are best left as adaptations rather then translations. So, no using the comic as the story board for the entire show wouldn't have helped. Just like it didn't help Watchmen or any other comic book film that stuck too closely to the source material.
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Old 12-02-2010, 09:50 AM   #48 (permalink)
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If the first 2 Harry Potter films, or even Watchmen for that matter, has taught us anything, its that literal translations aren't a benefit, they're a detriment. These things are best left as adaptations rather then translations. So, no using the comic as the story board for the entire show wouldn't have helped. Just like it didn't help Watchmen or any other comic book film that stuck too closely to the source material.
I wrote almost that exact statement like 3 pages ago, so nothing new there. But speaking to my points since it's obvious I feel, to anyone who has read the comic, that a path better followed would have been to stick the plot progression outlined by the first trade. That's not to say as I pointed out that they should follow it frame for frame. Rather, they should not have made the unnecessary changes they did in terms of plotting and character archs. They would have been better serve to storyboard selectively from within the source while using their own digression as opposed to changing the story as drastically as they did. This is especially the case given the seemingly on going and open-ended freedoms allowed by the given format.

The issue with Watchmen was that it was completely literal and that there were no concessions made outside of the ending. It was never actually adapted for film so much as it was simply transferred just like you said. Therefore it ended up overly long and poorly paced. It would've worked much more effectively as a TV program in the same way that The Walking Dead SHOULD work. The concessions made were not done so to make for a better story nor did those changes make for better television. They were superfluous hollow filler. Bad writing that was recognized as such with the systematic firing of the whole staff.

Maybe Iím wrong, but Iím willing to bet that you havenít read the series or otherwise youíd most likely agree with me. Iím not in the critical minority there. And again, this is not a fan boy crying that the Joker fell in red waste as opposed to green waste. Itís me crying foul at the misguided direction that they took something that was very clearly and easily supposed to be taken elsewhere.

Am I wrong?
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There will be an encore presentation of all 5 episodes on Sunday before Season finale. Check your local listings.
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I don't have a problem with the show. Rarely agree with jmk but its been fantastic. Last episode was great. Looking forward to the season finale.
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Teaser clips for the new season has got me hyped.
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I picked this up on DVD and tried watching it again without trying to compare it to the source material. I can't. This show is an abortion compared to the comic books. I still for the life of my can't understand why they just made new characters like T-Dog, Merle and his cross boy shooting brother. Ricks wife wasn't some slut who was ****ing around with the other cop all the time either like they played it off as in the show.

Last I heard they fired most of the writers and were going to go back to the source material, but that was a while ago and I may be mistaken.
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And to anyone saying you can't stay true to the source material and have it work, go watch Game of Thrones.
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Game of Thrones takes massive dumps on top of The Walking Dead
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Haha. I'm still bitter.
As am I. This show came out right when I was at my peak of loving the Walking Dead trade, and it just did such a terrible ****ing job.

They changed way too much shit. It should have been called "Crazy Zombie Time very loosely based on the comic The Walking Dead

Horse shit.
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They don't have to be close. Both good shows. Regardless of if they stuck to the source or not, Season 1 walking dead was pretty good. It was entertaining for a horror show.

Yes pretty much everyone behind the scenes from Season 1 is gone including Frank Darabont the producer. Season 2 should be interesting with a new crew.
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