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Old 05-09-2003, 09:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Preseason College Football All American Team.

2003-2004

Offense
RB Clarett: Ohio State
RB Jones: Virginia Tech

QB Manning: Mississippi

TE Winslow: Miami
WR Woods: OSU
WR Williams: Washington

OT Andrews: Arkansas
OG Pape: Michigan
C Wilkerson: LSU
OG Munoz: Tennessee
OT Dorsey: Georgia Tech




Defense
DE Smith: Ohio State
DT Harris: Oklahoma
DT Wilfork: Miami
DE Pollack: Georgia

OLB Dansby: Auburn
ILB Lehman: Oklahoma
OLB Johnson: Texas

CB Gamble: Ohio State
CB Jackson: Michigan
SS Taylor: Miami
FS Schweigert: Purdue








2004-2005

Offense
RB Clarett: Ohio State
RB McLendon: NC State

QB Smith: Missouri

TE Finlayson: Tennessee
WR Fitzgerald: Pittsburgh
WR Williams: USC

OT Winston: Miami
OG McNeill: Auburn
C Carter: Oklahoma
OG Douglas: Ohio State
OT Dorsey: Georgia Tech




Defense
DE Tuck: Notre Dame
DT Watson: Michigan
DT Cody: USC
DE Dibbles: Texas

OLB Derting: Washington State
ILB D'Andrea: Ohio State
OLB Nicholson: FSU

CB Rolle: Miami
CB Jennings: Miami
SS Maddox: NC State
FS Allen: Ohio State
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Old 05-09-2003, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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P.S. Don't take this as a sign no like Woods and Smith over guys like Roy and McNeal because I have them on this list. I put them on there because they get good numbers in college and will probably make All American. Taking pro prospects in another thing...
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I'm not going to comment on 2004-2005, because there's too many things that could happen. For example, you have Eric Winston as a first-team AA OT, when he may not even stay there for long.

For 2003-2004, not a bad list. Michael Munoz doesn't play offensive guard, he plays tackle. I'd put Nick Leckey in his place. I really like Leckey because he's so quick, and is the best pulling guard in college football. At 6-4 290 he's got decent NFL size, too. If he could get up to, say, 305, he'd be a top-notch prospect at guard. Also, I think the battle for first-team center will be a good one. Vince Carter from Oklahoma and Ben Wilkerson are the two leading candidates, but at this point I'd give the preseason nod to Carter, because while both have started their true freshman and sophomore seasons, Carter has shown a little more so far, even though both are guys that I think will be the two best centers in football in five years. I think you've got the right team but wrong player for ILB. I'd go with Lance Mitchell. But Lehman's not a bad choice there at all. Daryl Smith is another guy that produces a lot, as is Kendyll Pope. I'd go with Dansby, Mitchell, and probably Smith. Smith is an oustanding college football player. Good picks on the defensive line. Reggie Williams for first-team over Roy Williams is a bold prediction, but I agree with it. The other skill position players you really can't argue with. I'm not so sure about Gamble at CB, but he'll get votes just because of his story from last year, him playing both ways and all. He'll have fans that will get him on the first team.
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Old 05-09-2003, 12:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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For your 2004-2005 All America team, add LB Lamarr Woodley and S Prescott Burgess both from UM. Those guys are going to be amazing.
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I agree, but they'll just be sophomores. Prescott Burgess and Ryan Mundy are going to be two GREAT safeties.
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For 2003-2004, not a bad list. Michael Munoz doesn't play offensive guard, he plays tackle.
I'm aware of that, but since when did preseasons All American lists look at position?

They just list the best players, not matter what the position on the offensive line.


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Reggie Williams for first-team over Roy Williams is a bold prediction, but I agree with it. The other skill position players you really can't argue with. I'm not so sure about Gamble at CB, but he'll get votes just because of his story from last year, him playing both ways and all. He'll have fans that will get him on the first team.
Well first I had Reggie at WR over Roy because Reggie has better numbers and since he has better numbers he might make the list over Roy. And I dare you to find me a better CB than Chris Gamble, because there is not one! And since Ohio State is coming off a championship year he will be on the list.
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Actually I think a guy you mentioned for 2004-2005, Antrel Rolle, could be better than Gamble. He's poised for a break-out year.

I know that they don't look at position really, but you listed Munoz as a guard. That's all I was saying. Just list them as OL's. But yeah, I do agree that he'll make first team. I think that Chijoke Onyenigecha, who's going to Oklahoma, (I think I got that name right?) is going to be the best cornerback in the country this year. He'll be a top five pick whenever he comes out. He's easily the newcomer of the year. Donte Whitner is going to Ohio State and could be better than Gamble. He's looked great every time I've seen him. He'll be a superstar. Ohio State's also got Darius Hiley and Tony Gonzalez coming in this year. They've got a lot of guys that will play at corner. So maybe Gamble won't have the stats to make it this year because there will be a lot of guys getting in games, especially when they're up by a bit.
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Who have you watched Chijoke Onyenigecha play>

But you underrated Gamble, he is a shut down CB and was last year. And again it was his first year playing CB for the team. And if his focus is just on defense his year he will be a great player and a top pick.

Woodson: former WR/CB
Bailey: former WR/CB
Gamble former WR/CB.....

WR's that can play CB are always great prospects at CB in the NFL because that shows they know how to go after the ball and they know how to catch it when they get the chance. And Chris Gamble is 6-2, and compared to say Woolfolk he is a much better prospect!
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Chijoke won't play next year IMO. Either he won't be allowed to by the NCAA or he'll redshirt.
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Hello captin obvious, that is just a given. I did list him as the top CB prospect before anyone else even mentioned his name! So he is taken out of consideration because come'on, that is just obvious, besides him....
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David Greene is a much better college QB than Manning. He also directs the best offense in the SEC, unlike Manning. He has proven he can deliver when the game is on the line, under pressure.
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David Greene is a much better college QB than Manning. He also directs the best offense in the SEC, unlike Manning. He has proven he can deliver when the game is on the line, under pressure.
You have a point but David Greene was surrounded by MUCH more talent last year than Eli in Mississippi.

Eli Manning had 3400 yards, 21 TD's 15 INT's


David Greene had 2900 yards and 22 TD's 8 INT's


But the numbers Manning put up are much more impressive because Manning has no talent around him. Greene on the other had has NFL prospects in Watson, Gibson, Johnson and Edwards, plus a strong running game and a solid offensive line!
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Tony Pape is an offensive tackle, not an offensive guard.

I agree, but they'll just be sophomores. Prescott Burgess and Ryan Mundy are going to be two GREAT safeties.

Prescott Burgess will likely play linebacker at Michigan.
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Tony Pape is an offensive tackle, not an offensive guard.
AGAIN! They just list the best players, not matter what the position on the offensive line in All American teams! Since when did the position matter?
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