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Old 05-20-2012, 08:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

Wow, didn't see that coming.

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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

This is AWESOME!

Finally some justice
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

Statement from NFL on bounty suspension ruling:

"Consistent with the panel's decision, Commissioner Goodell will, as directed, make an expedited determination of the discipline imposed for violating the league's pay-for-performance/bounty rule. Until that determination is made, the four players are reinstated and eligible to play starting this weekend."
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

Wow I find this hard to believe. What is the basis for this ruling?
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:24 PM   #23 (permalink)
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So they're innocent
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

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In its unanimous decision, the appeals panel lifted the suspensions on one hand, but sent the matter back to Goodell for "expeditious redetermination."

In other words, Goodell will get another swing at discipline.

Given the significant questions that surfaced in the NFL's case and the persistent legal wrangling, Friday's decision was a good one: The panel is forcing the NFL to reassess the manner in which it determined the punishment. It's telling the commissioner to try again.

But as much as the ruling shakes the normal order of the NFL — where what Goodell says usually goes — it is premature for players to declare victory.

The appeals panel divided the case into two pieces — the financial part, which, if the bounty scheme existed, would violate the salary cap and would be ruled upon by an arbitrator.

But it also handed to Goodell the intent-to-injure portion, saying he would have jurisdiction over that because it would be detrimental to the league.

In court, Vilma and other Saints players acknowledged a "pay-for-performance" fund existed to pay bonuses for different types of big plays and the occasional "cart-off" of an injured player, but argued that there was never an "intent" to injure.
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

That makes a lot more sense to me now. I'd bet that he just issues a new suspension some time between week 1 and week 2, and it's not going to be more lenient. I think if I were a ruthless dictator I'd suspend their asses for 15 games this season and two next year. Give them the extra one because I could and they dared to question my edicts.
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AlbertBreer: NFL produced an affidavit from Gregg Williams today, saying Vilma put a $10,000 bounty on Favre in January 2010, per source.
http://assets.espn.go.com/pdf/2012/0...msdocument.pdf

An affidavit signed only three days ago is very convincing.
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Williams trying to kiss Goodell's ass and get himself back in the game
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

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The nfl has 1 affidavit saying i did it. I have NINE saying i didnt. Do the math. Hush haters.

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You obviously want me to be guilty if you cant see that gregg was bullied to sign the affidavit. He signed 3days ago! #weakattempt

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“@TheDarbyPlace: @JonVilma51 how was he bullied? He's already suspended.”goodell has to reinstate him. its do wat i say or never coach again
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

League produces Cerullo declaration for Vilma


So their source is someone with an agenda who declaration contradicts parts of Gregg Williams’ declaration.
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Re: Suspended Saints' LB Vilma sues Goodell

Someone explain this to me. I haven't really cared about this whole issue enough to read up into it, but:

If the players are allowed to return to action while this is doing whatever it's doing, why aren't the coaches allowed to return as well?
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