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Mr. Hobbes · 08-15-2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

I'm at work. What is clear here is two things I've already pointed out.

1) You idolize Hollywood and look up to their "I do what I want" lifestyle, but that much has been clear for years with how you used to post around here.

2) You want what you say to be true, because that way, you're not as much of a worthless dirtbag if the people you look up to do the same shit.

Its an easy diagnosis.

Straw man arguments. You expect the same things from celebs as regular people, even though it's been made clear they are not. It's easy to judge what you don't understand.

Mr. Hobbes · 08-15-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Oh, and if you don't want to "engage", then ****ing beat it.

You're trying so hard to play the intelligent, calm, mature approach that its leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

Big boy, all grown upped harder Chan. We get it. You're 22. You's a big boy. A real deal adult. Its so ****ing stereotypical its funny.

Is there a better way to approach a convo by being intelligent? I could try typing in caps.

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan

Straw man arguments. You expect the same things from celebs as regular people, even though it's been made clear they are not. It's easy to judge what you don't understand.

Well lucky for us, Chan is here to explain what its like to be a Hollywood superstar to us.

You know, I was meaning to ask, but forgot. What exactly is your expertise here Chan? How is it you understand what they're going through, to a level where you can sit us down and school us on it? Also, why is it anyone who disagrees "doesn't understand"?

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan

Is there a better way to approach a convo by being intelligent? I could try typing in caps.

Go right on ahead, star ****er.

Mr. Hobbes · 08-15-2012, 02:44 AM

R-Star you'll notice when I say that celebs have different norms, it's not an opinion. People who are idolized aren't the same as the people who do the idolizing. When I said power and fame corrupts, and that a person is exposed to different things as celebs...these aren't opinions. It's common knowledge.

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan

R-Star you'll notice when I say that celebs have different norms, it's not an opinion. People who are idolized aren't the same as the people who do the idolizing. When I said power and fame corrupts, and that a person is exposed to different things as celebs...these aren't opinions. It's common knowledge.

Funny, because no ones come in to agree with you. Granted there's only been myself and Dre, but I doubt that will change.

The difference is, I'm not one of the people who do the idolizing. Chad Johnson is no better than R-Star. Neither is the majority of hollywood. Tom Hardy is better than R-Star. Lebron James is not. He has more money than I do, but he is not better than I am. Well except for doing anything sports related.

I hold everyone to the same standard I hold myself to.

You on the other hand do not.

Again though, you failed to answer how you're the professor in this situation. You've elaborated on nothing, and when asked to do so you've responded with "ask yourself why".

**Diable** · 08-15-2012, 03:11 AM

All this celebrity shit doesn't have a lot to do with the bottom line here. Chad Johnson got cut because he's old and he isn't very good any longer. If he was the third or fourth best WR on the Phins he'd still have a job. All the evidence suggests that he was not going to make the team. You have to be able to contribute on Special Teams if you're not any better on offense than he is at this point.

Mr. Hobbes · 08-15-2012, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Funny, because no ones come in to agree with you. Granted there's only been myself and Dre, but I doubt that will change.

The difference is, I'm not one of the people who do the idolizing. Chad Johnson is no better than R-Star. Neither is the majority of hollywood. Tom Hardy is better than R-Star. Lebron James is not. He has more money than I do, but he is not better than I am. Well except for doing anything sports related.

I hold everyone to the same standard I hold myself to.

You on the other hand do not.

Again though, you failed to answer how you're the professor in this situation. You've elaborated on nothing, and when asked to do so you've responded with "ask yourself why".

You hold everyone to the same standard, right? Your standard. Except you're just some guy, one out of the billions. You're limited in scope and perspective. Except you like to get mad over things, while it's better to solve it.

So, what about people from different religions who disagree with each other? In politics? These are people who have different values, and believe in different things.

The young and poor vote Democrat, then become rich and old and vote Republican. They vote to benefit their situation.

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Diable

All this celebrity shit doesn't have a lot to do with the bottom line here. Chad Johnson got cut because he's old and he isn't very good any longer. If he was the third or fourth best WR on the Phins he'd still have a job. All the evidence suggests that he was not going to make the team. You have to be able to contribute on Special Teams if you're not any better on offense than he is at this point.

Yep. If he was a top player they may turn a blind eye to this, or give some BS team related slap on the wrist, but guy just isn't that good anymore.

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan

You hold everyone to the same standard, right? Your standard. Except you're just some guy, one out of the billions. You're limited in scope and perspective. Except you like to get mad over things, while it's better to solve it.

So, what about people from different religions who disagree with each other? In politics? These are people who have different values, and believe in different things.

The young and poor vote Democrat, then become rich and old and vote Republican. They vote to benefit their situation.

Actually, I voted for the party that was set to tax me the most amount of money. Because as an adult I understand it takes money to run a country.

I don't judge people based on their religious values, unless they conflict with my own. Think beating women is ok because they aren't your equal? I'm not ok with that. Think blacks are an inferior race because your daddy told you so? I'm not ok with that. Think a tree in your back yard is your one true god? Cool. Like I give a ****.

Think the country should tax you more or less? Whatever. Once again, I could care less. I'll disagree with you, but I won't judge you on it.

You trying to compare celebrities to religion and politics shows just how out of touch you are.

Mr. Hobbes · 08-15-2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Diable

All this celebrity shit doesn't have a lot to do with the bottom line here. Chad Johnson got cut because he's old and he isn't very good any longer. If he was the third or fourth best WR on the Phins he'd still have a job. All the evidence suggests that he was not going to make the team. You have to be able to contribute on Special Teams if you're not any better on offense than he is at this point.

It's hard to imagine him being worse than Bess, Hartline, and Camarillo. His game was based off that ridiculous quickness. Hope he still has a step on those arena football guys.

Mr. Hobbes · 08-15-2012, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Actually, I voted for the party that was set to tax me the most amount of money. Because as an adult I understand it takes money to run a country.

I don't judge people based on their religious values, unless they conflict with my own. Think beating women is ok because they aren't your equal? I'm not ok with that. Think blacks are an inferior race because your daddy told you so? I'm not ok with that. Think a tree in your back yard is your one true god? Cool. Like I give a ****.

Think the country should tax you more or less? Whatever. Once again, I could care less. I'll disagree with you, but I won't judge you on it.

You trying to compare celebrities to religion and politics shows just how out of touch you are.

That's absurd. The country can run without your money. There's someone richer to tax.

You want to focus on your opinion, while I'm telling you about what makes them that way. It's not really about being intelligent, like you were saying. It's about recognizing the reality instead of only caring about your opinion. Your opinion does not take precedence.

**Dre** · 08-15-2012, 03:47 AM

Y'all fools kept going

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chan

That's absurd. The country can run without your money. There's someone richer to tax.

You want to focus on your opinion, while I'm telling you about what makes them that way. It's not really about being intelligent, like you were saying. It's about recognizing the reality instead of only caring about your opinion. Your opinion does not take precedence.

Focus on my opinion? My opinion is that athletes should not be held to a lower standard morality wise. That no one should. And your opinion is that they should because they live a different life than regular people.

The difference here is, you're coming off with "And that's how it is for people in Hollywood. You don't understand, I do. You can't change reality.", and then laughably following that up with "Your opinion does not take precedence".

I've pointed out that you're contradicting yourself twice now Chan. Do I need to say it again.

And the country can run without my money? I'm a top 5% earner. Who the **** are they supposed to tax? Not to mention, I pay less tax due to owning my own company, so its not that bad really.

**R-Star** · 08-15-2012, 04:18 AM

My relief should be here any minute. I'm out of here shortly for the day.

08-15-2012, 02:44 AM	#80 (permalink)
Mr. Hobbes Legend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 19,469 Rep Power: 21474863	Re: Chad Johnson arrested for domestic violence;Released by MIA R-Star you'll notice when I say that celebs have different norms, it's not an opinion. People who are idolized aren't the same as the people who do the idolizing. When I said power and fame corrupts, and that a person is exposed to different things as celebs...these aren't opinions. It's common knowledge. __________________ don't edit me bro

08-15-2012, 03:11 AM	#82 (permalink)
Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,185 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: Chad Johnson arrested for domestic violence;Released by MIA All this celebrity shit doesn't have a lot to do with the bottom line here. Chad Johnson got cut because he's old and he isn't very good any longer. If he was the third or fourth best WR on the Phins he'd still have a job. All the evidence suggests that he was not going to make the team. You have to be able to contribute on Special Teams if you're not any better on offense than he is at this point. __________________

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Dre do better Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 25 Posts: 41,325 Rep Power: 21474887	Re: Chad Johnson arrested for domestic violence;Released by MIA Y'all fools kept going

08-15-2012, 04:18 AM	#90 (permalink)
R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,992 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: Chad Johnson arrested for domestic violence;Released by MIA My relief should be here any minute. I'm out of here shortly for the day. __________________

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