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Old 08-15-2012, 04:22 AM   #91 (permalink)
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Focus on my opinion? My opinion is that athletes should not be held to a lower standard morality wise. That no one should. And your opinion is that they should because they live a different life than regular people.

The difference here is, you're coming off with "And that's how it is for people in Hollywood. You don't understand, I do. You can't change reality.", and then laughably following that up with "Your opinion does not take precedence".

I've pointed out that you're contradicting yourself twice now Chan. Do I need to say it again.


And the country can run without my money? I'm a top 5% earner. Who the **** are they supposed to tax? Not to mention, I pay less tax due to owning my own company, so its not that bad really.
You're a fool to think celebrities are held to the same standard as you.

Talk about your earnings and your company explains quite a bit. It's not uncommon for managerial types, especially entrepreneurs, to have an inflated sense of their opinion. It's a necessity when you have to make the calls. It's even more important to make calls when there's fewer folks in your company with vetoing power.

You can talk shit about celebrity culture, but there's nothing you can do to change it. You can always get mad over it.
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You're a fool to think celebrities are held to the same standard as you.

Talk about your earnings and your company explains quite a bit. It's not uncommon for managerial types, especially entrepreneurs, to have an inflated sense of their opinion. It's a necessity when you have to make the calls. It's even more important to make calls when there's fewer folks in your company with vetoing power.

You can talk shit about celebrity culture, but there's nothing you can do to change it. You can always get mad over it.


You try to tell me we should talk with no insults, and then come at me like a passive aggressive bitch. Hide some more back handed compliments in your next post Chan.

I work for myself. I am the only employee unless you count my mother who I put on payroll so that I could give her $500 a month that's pretty much tax free.

My opinion today is the same opinion I had when I was jobless during the recession, as it was when I was a minimum wage worker.


Your posting style leaves a lot to be desired. I've posted multiple times I'm mad about nothing. I've also asked what makes your opinion more valid, to which you've skirted away from, never answering.

Any time I've asked you to clarify why getting more pussy rubbed in your face makes it ok to cheat, you've decided you don't have to respond with an actual reply.

All the while doing so while attempting to talk down to me like you're some sort of intellect on this website.


As I said, gotta go Chan. Work day is done for R-Star. Been a real treat.
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Old 08-15-2012, 04:38 AM   #93 (permalink)
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You're not mad, but you come off with more insults than reasons. Given reasons why your standards aren't that of other people, but you insist your way is the only one. So yeah, you're a fool.

You really think a celebrity and a regular person behaves the same way?
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First it was "no you don't understand they have a different set of rules that justifies everything" now it's do we think they have the same rules

But no, we obviously don't think someone can behave like Kanye West or say Keith Moon at their job and be fine. That wasn't the discussion though..good night Chan
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They're not the same but should act the same way, right?

Comparing yourself to someone nothing like you... maybe you should stop comparing yourself to others.
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This isn't just any old comparison is my point. I can compare myself in that we're both human beings and we all have the same natural rights and morals that've been cultivated over thousands of years...and excuse me if I don't think you're that brilliant mind that overrides that.

No one deserves a different set of morals or definitions or right and wrong with impunity, no one ever will...just because film was invented and douchebags decided to waste our time in front of it doesn't make it different. Get over yourself and this pseudo intellectual bullshit defending Ochocinco of all people

Stop trying to be so anti-everything and then come with childish/simplistic defense for it. "Maybe I shouldn't compare myself to other people?" If someone goes outside and pops someones head off or cheats like a mad man on a devoted wife (in a real relationship) I don't and you don't need some similar life experience to say they're assholes. Period. We're done here.
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Deserve has nothing to do with it. Johnson's actions are just par for the course.
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I like how Chan has just been changing his argument whenever he decides he doesn't like an answer, and complains about insults all the while throwing them into his own responses.


Guy's really turned into a bottom of the barrel poster.
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This isn't just any old comparison is my point. I can compare myself in that we're both human beings and we all have the same natural rights and morals that've been cultivated over thousands of years...and excuse me if I don't think you're that brilliant mind that overrides that.

No one deserves a different set of morals or definitions or right and wrong with impunity, no one ever will...just because film was invented and douchebags decided to waste our time in front of it doesn't make it different. Get over yourself and this pseudo intellectual bullshit defending Ochocinco of all people

Stop trying to be so anti-everything and then come with childish/simplistic defense for it. "Maybe I shouldn't compare myself to other people?" If someone goes outside and pops someones head off or cheats like a mad man on a devoted wife (in a real relationship) I don't and you don't need some similar life experience to say they're assholes. Period. We're done here.
Chan is "finding himself". He's 22. Most kids are dumb, self important idiots at that age who think their new found idea of maturity is the be all end all of a discussion.

The guy has kept saying "You can't expect everyone to follow the same morals as you!", then turns around with "Celebs are like this! I know. And its exactly like I said and you're wrong.". He refuses to reply to that when I've pointed it out twice though.


At this point all you can hope for is that if he does come and post back here in 5 years, he realizes what a douche bag he was a 22. Well, not even a douche bag. Chan just comes off as a bad human being these days.
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Deserve has nothing to do with it. Johnson's actions are just par for the course.
Elaborate.

....but since we know you won't, because you haven't actually replied to anyones questioning in this thread, I'll do it for you.


Par for the course Chan, would mean cheating on your wife and then headbutting her in the face is a regular occurrence in Hollywood. Just another day at the office.

You are so deluded from your love of stars that you think because every once in a while there's a Chris Brown beat down, it somehow makes it par for the course.

Hitting your wife isn't a regular thing that happens all the time in Hollywood. Where its ok because they have different rules.


I'll point out again that you're doing an absolutely horrendous job defending your opinion. When asked to defend you posts, all you do is come back with amateur hour rhetoric like "Its just what Hollywood does man. You wouldn't understand, but I would."


By the way, you still haven't explained that one. You must be running in some pretty high up circles to know all this. Last time I was in LA I stayed in the executive suite at the Ritz overlooking Staples Center. What about you?

Pointless money drop mention on my part? Yea, sure. Point is, you're ****ing nobody Chan. So I'm not sure why you're trying to talk down to anyone here, and come across as the liaison to the rich and famous.
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You don't need to understand anything. Simply look at the celeb lifestyle.

The main issue here is that you expect celebs to be exactly like you. I expect them to be nothing like me. Celebs hang out with entourages that agree with them all the time, and they are never told they're wrong. They're considered 'the talent' and have many people doing menial tasks for them. They have hundreds of people cheering their name many places they go.

If their self-importance is reinforced everywhere they go, how do you expect them to not be assholes?

You said Chad would've hit his wife if he was never famous. This means he was born to be an asshole. People aren't born like that; they become that way.
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You don't need to understand anything. Simply look at the celeb lifestyle.

The main issue here is that you expect celebs to be exactly like you. I expect them to be nothing like me. Celebs hang out with entourages that agree with them all the time, and they are never told they're wrong. They're considered 'the talent' and have many people doing menial tasks for them. They have hundreds of people cheering their name many places they go.

If their self-importance is reinforced everywhere they go, how do you expect them to not be assholes?

You said Chad would've hit his wife if he was never famous. This means he was born to be an asshole. People aren't born like that; they become that way.
What a dumb as shit post.

So if Chad didn't have guys saying "Yea Chad, whatever you say Chad." or getting "You're the greatest Ocho!" tweets, then he wouldn't have lost his temper and head butted his slutty star ****er of a wife?

Most people who abuse their wives have seen it elsewhere growing up. He didn't grow up as a kind, courteous young man who would help old ladies across the street, then transform into a wife beater as soon as he made it big.


And where did I say I expect anyone to be like me? Anyone can do whatever they want. They still all get judged on the same moral ground at the end of the day.


Just because you yourself look up to them and think they're better than the rest of us, does not put them on some special ground because you say so.
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Celebs behave in ways that you disagree with because their culture makes them prone to that.

Your can judge them by your moral ground, and you can hate them, but it doesn't change how they behave.
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Celebs behave in ways that you disagree with because their culture makes them prone to that.

Your can judge them by your moral ground, and you can hate them, but it doesn't change how they behave.
Is this a joke?

Yes Chan. You've said what you said in the quoted post multiple times. Nothing else. Nothing of substance, no defense to your argument or counter points. Nothing. Just your personal opinion. All the while telling us that opinions in this discussion don't matter.


Good job.
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I'm starting to think Chans come back as a gimmick poster.
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