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**Ron** · 09-25-2012, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by roux2dope

What does the firt half have anything to do with this, we did enough to win the game in the second half and the refs screwed us.

No you didn't. Packers didn't deserve to win that game, no team did. I will always contend that a team that played like they did in the first half should have just packed up their bags and went home. They were an embarrassment to the entire state of Wisconsin. I don't think I have seen anything that brutal since the 49ers punished the Rams in a 1976 Monday night game like that...and I sure didn't think my team deserved to win that game either.

Or maybe you think mediocrity should be rewarded...I beg to differ.

**Ron** · 09-25-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Thang

Still, the replacements have been terrible. I think that play last night was a tough one, but they've routinely been screwing up simple things like marking off the proper yardage on penalties which is unforgiveable.

Not any worse than the regular referees. How many times have I read on here complaints about the officials in previous years? People just love to complain about the refs, but you should get out and try it yourself sometime.

Not as easy as you might think, believe me.

**roux2dope** · 09-25-2012, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Thang

I was in bed before this happened last night and just watched a quick replay this morning. Without getting into a Zapruder analysis to determine of Tate's hands actually stayed on the ball, I'll say I swear I've seen similarly sketchy simultaneous possession calls before. The rule is if two players make contact with the ball at the same time and maintain possession throughout the catch, it goes to the offense. It doesn't matter who has "more" possession. It looked like Golden Tate's left hand may have been on the ball the entire way. I think many of the NFL rules are poorly worded and betray their common sense intent. In that respect, I think this was a tougher call than people make it seem. When you have inexperience refs trying to sort out a ruling on one of the games most uncommon plays, nobody is going to agree with the outcome.

It's not like a similarly nonsense rule has never decided a game before. The real refs were still around for that Calvin Johnson game a couple years ago where a bad rule followed to the letter of the law cost a team a game.

Still, the replacements have been terrible. I think that play last night was a tough one, but they've routinely been screwing up simple things like marking off the proper yardage on penalties which is unforgiveable.

Jennings clearly caught thw ball, hell tates second arm soesnt even come onto the football until it was already in jenninga chest. It was a blatantly blown call that anyone with football knowledge is upset about. Not to mention the blatant two hand shove in the back to even put himaelf into position to steal the ball qas just as bad of a missed call if not worse. The refs allowed the seahawks to win a game that they clearly didnt win and it may have major impact on several teams outside of just these two teams. With so few games on the schedule one game in either direction effecta tiebreakera, seeding, home field advantage and even worse it may keep green bay out of the playoffs and allow seattle to make them. It was an embarassment.

**roux2dope** · 09-25-2012, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

No you didn't. Packers didn't deserve to win that game, no team did. I will always contend that a team that played like they did in the first half should have just packed up their bags and went home. They were an embarrassment to the entire state of Wisconsin. I don't think I have seen anything that brutal since the 49ers punished the Rams in a 1976 Monday night game like that...and I sure didn't think my team deserved to win that game either.

Or maybe you think mediocrity should be rewarded...I beg to differ.

Ron, we scored more points then them, we deserved to win the game. It is really that simple.

**Ron** · 09-25-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Game3525

I haven't been this pissed since Hochuli's **** up four years ago.....and I don't even like GB.

But...but...but...

He is like...I mean...he is like one of the regulars, no?

I think all of you guys are a lot of fun to poke with. Y'all are too young to remember the dolts we used to have to put up with in the '70s and '80s WITHOUT the benefit of instant replay.

This is nothing compared to those days.

And guess what? Not only did the NFL survive, they became stronger than ever.

I am a witness.

**Ron** · 09-25-2012, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by roux2dope

Ron, we scored more points then them, we deserved to win the game. It is really that simple.

No, it really is not. The Packers didn't deserve shit in that game, and if you are happy with a mediocre Packers team whose offensive line is total Swiss cheese that will put Aaron Rodgers in traction by week 5, then I don't know what to say to you.

Get over it. You are blindly following a league that doesn't care about the outcome of games, so you are a willing partner in the comedy playing itself out. Accept it and move on.

**roux2dope** · 09-25-2012, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

No, it really is not. The Packers didn't deserve shit in that game, and if you are happy with a mediocre Packers team whose offensive line is total Swiss cheese that will put Aaron Rodgers in traction by week 5, then I don't know what to say to you.

Get over it. You are blindly following a league that doesn't care about the outcome of games, so you are a willing partner in the comedy playing itself out. Accept it and move on.

I just dont get your logic, yes our offense was terrible in the first half, but it was solid in the aexond half and our sefense played great all night. We did enough to win the game and it really is that simple. Games arent decides at halftime based on how many sacks you allowed. We outplayed them in the second half and our dedensw shut them down all night with the exception of busted coverage on tates first touchdown. The refs gave the seahwaks points they didnt deserve am literally handed them a win. If you cant understand how a packer fan would be livid over this i dont lnow what to tell you.

**roux2dope** · 09-25-2012, 05:33 AM

Sorry for the terrible spelling, im on my phone and the verticalsports app wont work on phone foe some reason

Mrs. Thang · 09-25-2012, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dre

Y'all acting like the old referees weren't the same people who ended up getting challenges brought back as well as whatever happened in that Broncos (?) game awhile back

The internet overdoes shit on habit with the punkass memes and stupid jokes. STFU and get over it

I think the last line about the internet overdoing things is funny coming from the guy who uses those obnoxious gifs in every post, but I agree.

Mrs. Thang · 09-25-2012, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by roux2dope

Jennings clearly caught thw ball, hell tates second arm soesnt even come onto the football until it was already in jenninga chest. It was a blatantly blown call that anyone with football knowledge is upset about. Not to mention the blatant two hand shove in the back to even put himaelf into position to steal the ball qas just as bad of a missed call if not worse. The refs allowed the seahawks to win a game that they clearly didnt win and it may have major impact on several teams outside of just these two teams. With so few games on the schedule one game in either direction effecta tiebreakera, seeding, home field advantage and even worse it may keep green bay out of the playoffs and allow seattle to make them. It was an embarassment.

Nobody questions if Jennings caught the ball. Did Tate have simultaneous, unbroken possession? You can catch a ball with one arm in the NFL. I swear I've seen almost this exact play before but I can't remember where. I'm not saying it makes any sense, just that nowhere in the rules does it say anything like two hand possesion > than one hand possession.

All I'm saying is, prepare yourself for when the NFL releases a statement later today about how they feel the replacements made the correct call with regards to the lettering of the rule.

**roux2dope** · 09-25-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Thang

Nobody questions if Jennings caught the ball. Did Tate have simultaneous, unbroken possession? You can catch a ball with one arm in the NFL. I swear I've seen almost this exact play before but I can't remember where. I'm not saying it makes any sense, just that nowhere in the rules does it say anything like two hand possesion > than one hand possession.

All I'm saying is, prepare yourself for when the NFL releases a statement later today about how they feel the replacements made the correct call with regards to the lettering of the rule.

If one guy catches it with 2 hands and the other guy catches it with 1 ill give the major nod to the guy with 2.

You are absolutely right about the nfl taking a chickenshit stand on this for sure

**E.H. Munro** · 09-25-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dre

Why you got multiple teams in every sport

Well, in baseball it's because my mother was from Queens and a Giants fan. With football, after the Redskins left Boston, there was no pro football here for two decades, and during that interregnum my father adopted the Packers as his NFL team. With basketball it's because my very first basketball was a San Diego Rockets ball. In hockey it's really only the Bruins I follow.

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Originally Posted by Dissonance

Oh, please. Last night, shit calls all around even against Ravens, for both teams. Evened out.

Easy for you to say, the Lingerie Football League officials put about 17 points on the board for you guys, including the wide right field goal.

**E.H. Munro** · 09-25-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

You'll be back. It's the only game in town.

No, I really won't. I have other things I can be doing, and until they bring back the real officials I will be.

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Originally Posted by Ron

Patriots' defense has been a sieve again this year, no way the Ravens should be scoring 31 points on them.

Actually, it hasn't been a sieve this year. Without the crappy replacements the Ravens would have lost half their first downs. There were six occasions that I counted where Baltimore receivers were holding/pushing/etc. their defender only to be gifted with a PI/holding/illegal contact call. Against the defender. And on three occasions they got scores out of it. One of those sorts of butchered calls a team can survive. But three quarters of them?

**Coatesvillain** · 09-25-2012, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Not any worse than the regular referees. How many times have I read on here complaints about the officials in previous years? People just love to complain about the refs, but you should get out and try it yourself sometime.

Not as easy as you might think, believe me.

You can say that we complain about the regular refs, which is true, but to say that these refs aren't any worse is a crock of shit.

**E.H. Munro** · 09-25-2012, 07:08 AM

I'm sure someone's posted this already, but it sums up everything I think about these crackheads.

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E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,281 Rep Power: 21474869	Re: NFL '12 - Week 3 I'm sure someone's posted this already, but it sums up everything I think about these crackheads. __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

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