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Old 10-10-2012, 11:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Is Mark Sanchez the devil?

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What are you talking about? There's been much worse. He's had like one OC change. No HC change.

Alex Smith had like 5 OCs and 3 HCs and he's going fine now. JaMarcus Russell had 2 OCs I think, plus the holdout. There's been many worse development plans.

I don't see the merit in criticizing the Jets plan. Ryan has been letting him play through his mistakes, something that many coaches wouldn't do with a young guy. Another coach would've started Tebow by now.

If anything, Ryan should be commended for trusting his QB. Sanchez needs to play better, and he needs to tuck the damn ball.
seriously? who was his first QB coach? no one? what about his current one? nobody? they're both accredited right? which wide outs have they brought in for him that weren't cancerous discards from other teams? none? is it none? and lazy susan-ing offensive coordinators every single season? is that a good idea? and Tebow? Tebow!!??? **** you - Peyton Manning would be seeking legal counsel, Tom Brady would have washed out

your examples are a guy who is thanking god every single day that he finally got Jim Harbaugh and a fat ball of crap a crazy old dude should never have been empowered to select

but otherwise excellent points yes, the Jets have been every bit as bad as mike singletary was in his efforts to get fired and/or a senile old dude that died before the state stepped in a took his team away from him for malpractice

the jets have no ****ing plan

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Re: Is Mark Sanchez the devil?

Who knows? It could've been Harbaugh, veteranism, or a combo of both. You can ask the same question about Brees and Payton.

The QB-Coach relationship is symbiotic. Maybe it's as simple as finding the perfect match.
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You guys think if Alex Smith had been with one OC and one HC since he was drafted that he wouldn't have been considered a bust? The way he's playing right now (I know it's not elite) really makes me wonder. He's having a terrific start to the season and has outplayed some of the better QB's in the league.
Alex smith was a piece of crap until he got with the right coach and system

if you are going to draft a qb in the first round you might want to do some damn thing about and around him the jets have not

at age 34 Rich Gannon was suddenly a league MVP/pro bowler after a journey-man (at best) 8 year career because why? because Chucky that's why - QB/coach/system

**** Ryan that fat bastard, he's the one who is the devil
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seriously? who was his first QB coach? no one? what about his current one? nobody? they're both accredited right? which wide outs have they brought in for him that weren't cancerous discards from other teams? none? is it none? and lazy susan-ing offensive coordinators every single season? is that a good idea? and Tebow? Tebow!!??? **** you - Peyton Manning would be seeking legal counsel, Tom Brady would have washed out

your examples are a guy who is thanking god every single day that he finally got Jim Harbaugh and a fat dud a crazy old dude should never have been empowered to select

but otherwise excellent points yes, the Jets have been every bit as bad as mike singletary was to get fired or a senile old dude that died before the state stepped in a took his team away from him for malpractice
Dude. There's been many QB busts who've done worse than Sanchez due to their development. Tim Couch, Akili Smith, etc. You're talking like Sanchez is already out of the league.

The Jets had guys like Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes. Edwards had drops, but he's deep threat and a former marquee name. Holmes just came off his Super Bowl heroics. Other teams would kill to get guys of that caliber.

Look at what Blaine Gabbert has to work with. Brandon Weeden. Sam Bradford.

Tebow isn't hurting Sanchez' development, it's helping him. Competition makes you better.

What are you talking about?
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