Update: Penalty against Ravens' Ed Reed reduce to fine - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums

**BlakeJesus** · 11-19-2012, 01:05 PM

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Safety Ed Reed of the Baltimore Ravens has been suspended without pay for one game for repeated violations of the rule prohibiting hits to the head and neck area of defenseless players.

The suspension was imposed by NFL Vice President of Football Operations Merton Hanks. Reed may not practice this week nor play in the Ravens' game this Sunday against the San Diego Chargers. He may not be at the team practice facility or stadium for any other activities during the suspension. He will be reinstated on Monday, Nov. 26.

Reed was penalized for unnecessary roughness in the third quarter of Sunday night's game against the Pittsburgh Steelers for a hit to the head and neck area of a defenseless receiver, Emmanuel Sanders.

It was Reed's third violation in the past three seasons of the rules protecting defenseless players:

-On September 23, 2012 against the New England Patriots, Reed was penalized for unnecessary roughness and fined $21,000 for striking a defenseless player, wide receiver DEION BRANCH, in the head and neck area.

-On December 19, 2010 against the New Orleans Saints, Reed was penalized for roughing the passer and fined $10,000 for unnecessarily striking the quarterback, DREW BREES, in the head and neck area.

The 2012 Schedule of Fines, distributed to players as part of the "League Policies for Players" manual, states: "Players who were fined for violations in 2010 or 2011, and whose fines were either partially or fully upheld, will be considered second and/or repeat offenders under this policy."

"We cannot tolerate repeated violations of rules, especially rules related to player safety," said NFL Executive Vice President of Football Operations Ray Anderson. "We will continue to take the strongest possible action to deter these types of violations and protect our players."

Under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the suspension may be appealed within three business days and an expedited hearing and decision would take place this week in advance of Sunday's game. Appeals are heard and decided by either Art Shell or Ted Cottrell, the officers jointly appointed and compensated by the NFL and NFLPA to decide appeals of on-field player discipline.

Reed is the second player suspended this season for violating rules designed to protect the safety of players. Denver Broncos linebacker Joe Mays was suspended for one game for an illegal hit against a defenseless player, Houston quarterback Matt Schaub, in the Broncos' September 23 game against the Texans.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-game-for-hits

**Dissonance** · 11-19-2012, 01:06 PM

LOL, oh god. That hit last night seemed legit to me.

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Ed Reed has been suspended without pay for one game for violations of rule prohibiting hits to the head and neck area of defenseless players

Edit: Ha oops. Posted this same time. I merged it.

**Dissonance** · 11-19-2012, 03:45 PM

Appealing it.

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Chris Mortensen ‏@mortreport

Ed Reed's appeal on 1-game suspension could be overturned or financial penalty could be reduced. Game check of $423,529 is a bit steep.

**Headliner** · 11-20-2012, 09:26 AM

It should be overturned. It wasn't an intentional hit, and it's extremely hard to adjust the way you hit someone when you are going at someone with full momentum like that. If anything he was trying to potentially cause a fumble with the hit.

This whole thing just isn't fair. Why are sports commissioners such pricks?

Marcus13 · 11-20-2012, 12:04 PM

half a million?

Good God.

Marcus13 · 11-20-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Headliner

This whole thing just isn't fair. Why are sports commissioners such pricks?

It's a requirement to get these jobs

rocketeer · 11-20-2012, 12:24 PM

i don't mind the suspension in general or the amount of money. sure, it's a ton of money. because it's a game check and reed makes a ton of money.

that specific hit though definitely should not have led to this. wasn't bad at all. a flag based on the rules, sure, but not anything that deserves any further punishment.

**El Shaqtus** · 11-20-2012, 12:25 PM

Next step: NFFL

National Flag Football League.

**Prince** · 11-20-2012, 12:41 PM

Sarcastaball

**Diable** · 11-20-2012, 12:41 PM

The league is in a tough spot, because at the core of it their game is fundamentally violent and dangerous. Then they have to worry about their responsibility for the consequences. I wouldn't say that they are ignoring their moral responsibility, but I am pretty damned certain they aren't ignoring their financial responsibility for any serious injuries. They are being sued for a couple billion by former players.

**Prince** · 11-20-2012, 01:09 PM

Penalty reduced to $50,000 fine.

**Dissonance** · 11-20-2012, 01:17 PM

Sweet. No suspension. Good job Ted Cottrell.

kbdullah · 11-20-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Diable

The league is in a tough spot, because at the core of it their game is fundamentally violent and dangerous. Then they have to worry about their responsibility for the consequences. I wouldn't say that they are ignoring their moral responsibility, but I am pretty damned certain they aren't ignoring their financial responsibility for any serious injuries. They are being sued for a couple billion by former players.

Pretty much. I almost feel bad for the league, b/c they have to defend the lawsuits while preserving the fairness of the game. On the other hand, the player's union is in a great position, is suing the league for past negligence towards player safety, and then suing and appealing players suspensions resulting from rules designed to make players safer.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...9180--nfl.html

Mr. Hobbes · 11-21-2012, 03:10 AM

"Reduced to 50,000 dollars"

****ing millionaires.

11-20-2012, 09:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
Headliner ____________ Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,892 Rep Power: 665818	Re: NFL suspends Ravens' Reed for violations of rule prohibiting hits to defenseless players It should be overturned. It wasn't an intentional hit, and it's extremely hard to adjust the way you hit someone when you are going at someone with full momentum like that. If anything he was trying to potentially cause a fumble with the hit. This whole thing just isn't fair. Why are sports commissioners such pricks?

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Marcus13 Jesus Shuttlesworth Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indianapolis Age: 25 Posts: 13,977 Rep Power: 2950340	Re: NFL suspends Ravens' Reed for violations of rule prohibiting hits to defenseless players half a million? Good God. __________________

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rocketeer Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Age: 27 Posts: 13,699 Rep Power: 9760468	Re: NFL suspends Ravens' Reed for violations of rule prohibiting hits to defenseless players i don't mind the suspension in general or the amount of money. sure, it's a ton of money. because it's a game check and reed makes a ton of money. that specific hit though definitely should not have led to this. wasn't bad at all. a flag based on the rules, sure, but not anything that deserves any further punishment. __________________ Rodney Rogers!!!!!

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El Shaqtus KVBL's Resident Old Fart Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Louis Metro Posts: 6,223 Rep Power: 1811986	Re: NFL suspends Ravens' Reed for violations of rule prohibiting hits to defenseless players Next step: NFFL National Flag Football League. __________________ Mom, thanks for everything. RIP Coach Rick Majerus 12/1/12. You were the one that said it was OK to think big at SLU. You were right. KVBL Lexington Kings 2023 KVBL Champions: St. Louis Warriors (El Shaqtus) 2026 KVBL First Loser

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Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,127 Rep Power: 14577544	Re: NFL suspends Ravens' Reed for violations of rule prohibiting hits to defenseless players The league is in a tough spot, because at the core of it their game is fundamentally violent and dangerous. Then they have to worry about their responsibility for the consequences. I wouldn't say that they are ignoring their moral responsibility, but I am pretty damned certain they aren't ignoring their financial responsibility for any serious injuries. They are being sued for a couple billion by former players. __________________

11-20-2012, 01:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
Prince Formerly Known as Quite Frankly Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wisconsin Age: 22 Posts: 11,764 Rep Power: 4532849	Re: NFL suspends Ravens' Reed for violations of rule prohibiting hits to defenseless players Penalty reduced to $50,000 fine. __________________ 2032 KVBL Champions: Milwaukee Bucks (Prince) Lineup - PG D'Angelo McMillian \| SG Eddy Sweet \| SF Cameron Clothier \| PF Mario Rogic \| C Greg Hope \| 6th man C Andre Wright Finals MVP: Greg Hope 2033 KVBL Champions: Milwaukee Bucks (Prince) Lineup - PG D'Angelo McMillian \| SG Joseph McDaniels \| SF Cameron Clothier \| PF Mario Rogic \| C Greg Hope \| 6th man C Peter Acres Finals MVP: Greg Hope Fear the Deer Minnesota Timberwolves

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Dissonance Super Bowl Champs Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 30 Posts: 44,760 Rep Power: 16893179	Re: Update: Penalty against Ravens' Ed Reed reduce to fine Sweet. No suspension. Good job Ted Cottrell.

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Mr. Hobbes Legend Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 19,469 Rep Power: 21474863	Re: Update: Penalty against Ravens' Ed Reed reduce to fine "Reduced to 50,000 dollars" ****ing millionaires. __________________ don't edit me bro

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