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Old 06-18-2004, 09:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2004 Combine Results for Lottery Potentials!

Player reps vert lane agility

Childress 11 36” 11.95 sec
Deng 5 31.5” 11.46
Gordon 12 37.5” 11.28
Harris 5 37” 11.03
Howard 7 35.5” 11.21
Humphries 22 36” 11.33
Iguodala 4 34.5” 11.17
Jackson 13 36” 11.1
Jefferson 3 30” 13.08
Livingston 0 30” 10.72
Nelson 15 33.5” 10.95
Okafor 22 34” 12.32
Ramos 5 26.5” 12.61
JR Smith 5 35.5" 10.93
Josh Smith 12 39.5” 11.43
Snyder 19 35” 10.79

From Chad Ford/Insider.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Deng 5 reps??? Jefferson 3???


Snyder 19????
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THIRTY-NINE-AND-ONE-HALF inch vert? That's insane, Josh Smith!
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Other notes from Mr. Ford:

Nate Robinson was the best athlete in the draft with a 43.5” vertical (!!!), 13 reps and 10.75 lane agility. Wow and wow again. Kirk Snyder was second. Wow, he has great lateral quickness. Humphries finished 4th, Okafor 8th, and Jameer Nelson 10th.

As far as non lotto prospects, Tony Allen was 3rd, Tim Bowers 5th, Ricky Paulding 6th, Andre Barrett 7th, Luis Flores 9th.

Duhon had the best lane agility score at 10.45 seconds.

Biedrins, Podkolzine, Monya, Araujo, Swift, Wright, Khryapa, Varejao and Telfair were not tested.

Snyder and Humphries helped themselves, but Ford says Jefferson and Deng took the biggest hits.

Okafor and Howard are a draw athletically.

JR Smith’s vertical is not as high as was his reputation.
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Some remarkable results:
Kris Humpries (36") has got a higher vert than Iguodala (34.5") ?
Shaun Livingston is faster than Jameer Nelson ?
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Ramos = Non Athletic stiff. No way he goes top 20 anymore.
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Shaun Livingston is faster than Jameer Nelson ?
8 inches taller and longer legs. Those are huge advantages in Livingston's favor.

However, Nelson is no TJ Ford, AI or Tony Parker with the rock.
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I wouldn't put too much into it. 2 years ago Nene was like #2 and Amare was only #10 or so but quite obviously in a game Amare is definately more athletic than Nene. No question.

Also what about Al Jefferson? The next Amare? Better than Amare?

LOL! 30" vertical only and just 3 reps.

Also that top 10 by Ford hardly tells you who the best athlete is.

Josh Smith has 5.5" vertical on Okafor, a better agility test but obviously Okafor should get more reps than a 18 year old highschool kid that is going to play 2/3 and hasn't hit the weigth room really.

Strength has little to do with athleticism anyway.
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Strength has little to do with athleticism anyway.
Agree and disagree here. With the proper leg, calf and thigh development you can turn yourself into a great athlete. Jefferson has always had baby phat on him, but so did Kendrick Perkins and Danny Ainge and the strength and conditioning coaches of the Celtics have totally molded his body into something new.

Once Jefferson gets into camp to physically change his physique, his athleticism can definitely improve. Most of the athleticism you have though, tends to be God given.
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Damn JR Smith got exposed. 44 inch vertical my ***. But wow, Kris Humphries is a beast! Him and Luke Jackson are showing that white men can jump.
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But wow, Kris Humphries is a beast! Him and Luke Jackson are showing that white men can jump.
Kris Humphries is black (or bi-racial). Black father/white mother.
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Also you don't know if everyone was 100% healthy.

I remember when we drafted Amare he had like some harmstring problems and shoulder problems that also limited his workouts.

Or some guys who already have a promise or their sights set on a specific team might be holding back even if it costs them some money.
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