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Glenn might have had the better college career, but that's not what this thread is about. College ball doesn't always translate to the NBA. To be honest, I personally believe that Morrisons success will be based almost entirely on what team he goes to.
He can't drippble well enough to play 2, he's doesn't have good enough perimiter D to play 3, and he's not a good enough rebounder to play 4 in the NBA. Which is why I believe he would fit in PERFECTLY with a fast tempo team, because it's more about transition D than rebounding. If the Suns drafted him, and he stayed with them his entire career, he could be the best person picked in this draft. But if he goes somewhere where he is expected to be a big time scorer, and leader for them...let's just say I wouldn't want to be a fan of THAT team (watch the Hawks draft him, just what they need...another SF haha).
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02-02-2006, 09:27 AM
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In my opinion, it could be debatable if Morrison was averaging 20 ppg, considering the conference he is playing in, but the guy is putting up 29 ppg. Plus, he put up 43 each against Michigan State (albeit in 3OT) and Washington and 34 against Memphis.
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02-04-2006, 04:03 PM
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Exactly.
The Big Dog was a beast in college. 30-10 on one of the best teams in the nation and in a tough conference.
How can anyone put Wally World ahead of the Big Dog (college or NBA)?
The Big Dog was one of the best scorers in the NBA. He averaged 20 ppg for 8 seasons and has a career scoring average of 20.7 ppg. Imagine if he didn't have to share the ball with Ray Allen and Sam Cassell?
There's no question that he didn't live up to his hype but the guy was a legitimate multiple all-star player.
Can Morrison be better? Who knows? Maybe. But even in college Big Dog was in another level than Morrison. He was expected to go #1 in a draft class that included Hill and Kidd. There is still debate whether Morrison would go #1 this year which looks to be a very weak draft class even at the top 3.
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Glenn Robinson only lead a Purdue team in his junior year with Cuonzo Martin to the Elite where they lost to Grant Hill.
Glenn Robinson was a better college player then Morrison in my opinion. He in the Big Ten no less when the Fab Five was there, Jim Jackson and OSU were great, Indiana and Calbert Cheaney.
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02-04-2006, 08:59 PM
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I don't think a player can be "on a different level" than a guy who is averaging 30 ppg. Maybe Robinson was better, but not by much.
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02-04-2006, 09:23 PM
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Are you kidding me? Big Dog was much better than Morrison in college. Did you watch Big Dog? He was unstoppable and he played in a tough conference. It's one thing to put up 30 in the Big Ten and another to put up 29 in the WCC. Big Dog in college was in a different level than Morrison. The separation is as much IMO as Tim Duncan and Shawn Marion. Big Dog was also a beast in the NCAA tournament. He averaged 31.4 ppg for his college career in the NCAA tournament. Like I said, Big Dog was the consensus #1 pick in a draft class that included Hill and Kidd. Morrison is a debatable #1 in a weak draft class.
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I don't think a player can be "on a different level" than a guy who is averaging 30 ppg. Maybe Robinson was better, but not by much.
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02-04-2006, 11:57 PM
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Robinson was probably one of the top 5 college players of the last 15 years. Whereas Morrison is one of the top 5...of this year
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Robinson was probably one of the top 5 college players of the last 15 years. Whereas Morrison is one of the top 5...of this year
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02-05-2006, 10:32 AM
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Um, JW - you seriously think that Morrison is close to Bid Dog's level? Dog was putting up 30 and 10 in a very deep NCAA against an extremely tough league - not to mention tearing it up in the tournament. While Morrison is nasty, he's not on the same level as what Big Dog was doing.
People act like Big Dog's career was a total bust too, but the guy went to a number of all-star games and averaged 20+ for his career - he was a very good player.
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02-05-2006, 01:42 PM
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So if Morrison averages 30 ppg in the tourney this March, will people change their minds? He averaged 26 ppg last season in the tourney, and I am still amazed that people aren't willing to admit how truly dominant a player he is. I saw Big Dog in the early 90's, but that was a decade ago. If you haven't sat down and analyzed tape from Robinson's career at Purdue, I highly doubt you have any business making a distinction between Morrison and Robinson.
I've followed college basketball very closely my entire life, but got really serious about it around 1999. Nobody has come close to what Adam Morrison (and to a lesser extent, JJ Redick) are doing this season.
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If you saw the Big Dog then you would know he was in another level as a college player. Like I said and will say again, Big Dog was the consensus #1 pick in a draft class than included Hill and Kidd who were both highly touted NBA prospects and had great college careers. Morrison as #1 this year in a weak draft class is debatable.
Plus, I watched Big Dog so that whole if you didn't down and analyze BS means nothing. What is that a personal jab at me. lol. If you can't see that the Big Dog was in a different level than Morrison when he was in college just tells me you don't analyze very good. You think just because you work for an amateur draft site your word should be taken above all others? Then the guys at NBAdraft.net who touted Ivan as a top 10 pick are right as well.
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So if Morrison averages 30 ppg in the tourney this March, will people change their minds? He averaged 26 ppg last season in the tourney, and I am still amazed that people aren't willing to admit how truly dominant a player he is. I saw Big Dog in the early 90's, but that was a decade ago. If you haven't sat down and analyzed tape from Robinson's career at Purdue, I highly doubt you have any business making a distinction between Morrison and Robinson.
I've followed college basketball very closely my entire life, but got really serious about it around 1999. Nobody has come close to what Adam Morrison (and to a lesser extent, JJ Redick) are doing this season.
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