[andalusian]

Originally Posted by HKF

Kevin Love's vertical is meaningless because he is a below the rim player. He'll never be exploding over people and jamming over them on a regular basis.

It is not entirely meaningless, it shows you he has the ability to jump high for rebounds and take advantage of his positioning strength and basketball IQ - knowing where to position himself. The same can be said about trying to block shots - he will have problems against some people - but he is not going to be a hopeless un-athletic player on defense as some predicted.

[HKF]

Originally Posted by andalusian

It is not entirely meaningless, it shows you he has the ability to jump high for rebounds and take advantage of his positioning strength and basketball IQ - knowing where to position himself. The same can be said about trying to block shots - he will have problems against some people - but he is not going to be a hopeless un-athletic player on defense as some predicted.

We'll see. I barely saw him block shots on the college level and he's gonna get called for fouls quite a bit in the pros. Yes, he will be a hopeless unathletic player. Just watch the guy play then extrapolate that to the pros. This isn't that hard.

[MB30]

Interesting results, Rose and Beasley measuring shorter is suprising, but wont effect their stock or anything. Not a lot that will change the projections really.

[croco]

Jordan Farmar also had one of the best verticals ever in the combine (42 inches) and I haven't really seen him dunking much. Those are indicators, but the numbers will also vary from day to day. They would need to repeat the combine at least ten times in a year to get more distinct results.

[RebelSun]

Some thoughts...

Beasley's 6'7 w/o shoes; ouch. His wingspan helps, but he's not blocking many shots in the league. This pushes him even more towards combo-F territory, which I would be pretty hesitant to take in the top 2. Team needs aside, I don't think I'd take him before any of the top 3 guards.

Alexander is obviously a crazy athlete, but the lack of an outside shot really hurts.

Gist is a little light, but his length checked out. I like him as a 2nd-round sleeper and bench defender/rebounder/finisher.

Gordon couldn't hit 6'4, but he's got a ton of lean mass and long arms; crazy athleticism checked out as well. I'll still start him at the 2 immediately.

lol, Davon Jefferson isn't leaving LA anytime soon with under 6'7 in shoes and only 213lbs at a sorry 12% bodyfat (for a wing, at least). No freakish arms, either. Time to battle DeRozan for alley-oops. His stock was volatile going in; this just sank it.

Where's Budinger?

DeAndre didn't hit 7'0, but his wingspan is as big as JaVale's (which is McGee's selling point). He didn't hurt himself in terms of his size/athleticism perception.

Brook didn't test well athletically, as expected, but he did great with the tape at over 6'11 in shoes, 258lbs w/ only 6% bodyfat, and a wingspan over 7'5. Excellent frame.

Love is over 6'9 in shoes, which is all he needed to do. His bodyfat is still high; it'll be interesting to see how much mobility he can gain after trimming down even more. For all the talk about him being sluggish, he didn't test sluggish. FWIW, he tied or bested the 'freak' Randolph in each athletic category. Great showing for him; don't really see how falls out of the top 8, let alone 6, now.

lol, Randolph failed to even hit 200lbs; only 58lbs shy of Love. Easily the biggest risk/reward guy in the draft. I think he's a combo-F, which I'm not a big fan of investing too many resources into. Does he put on 25lbs of muscle and move towards a Bosh or does he stay a long, rail-thin SF that can't shoot from deep (Miles)? With Love not measuring out short and actually showing himself to be an athlete, this doesn't bode well for Anthony going before him. It would take a lot of balls to take him before Kevin.

Weems is another guy I like in the 2nd round, but he couldn't hit 6'6, 200; interesting enough not to discount, though. Stupid fast; Carney-lite?

DeMarcus is a pretty polished player in terms of skill and athleticism. If he was 6'5, he may have been a damn good NBA player. He's tall enough for Euro millions, though.

[croco]

Originally Posted by RebelSun

Brook didn't test well athletically, as expected, but he did great with the tape at over 6'11 in shoes, 258lbs w/ only 6% bodyfat, and a wingspan over 7'5. Excellent frame.

Love is over 6'9 in shoes, which is all he needed to do. His bodyfat is still high; it'll be interesting to see how much mobility he can gain after trimming down even more. For all the talk about him being sluggish, he didn't test sluggish. FWIW, he tied or bested the 'freak' Randolph in each athletic category. Great showing for him; don't really see how falls out of the top 8, let alone 6, now.

lol, Randolph failed to even hit 200lbs; only 58lbs shy of Love. Easily the biggest risk/reward guy in the draft. I think he's a combo-F, which I'm not a big fan of investing too many resources into. Does he put on 25lbs of muscle and move towards a Bosh or does he stay a long, rail-thin SF that can't shoot from deep (Miles)? With Love not measuring out short and actually showing himself to be an athlete, this doesn't bode well for Anthony going before him. It would take a lot of balls to take him before Kevin.

I agree and I think that Randolph could really slip and maybe even fall out of the lottery. He is raw as a basketball player, but his body isn't even close to being ready for the NBA. Even Kevin Durant had 20 lbs on him ... he will have to really vow someone in a workout to go in the Top 10.

[HKF]

RebelSun, Davon Jefferson signed with an agent already. His college saga is done.

[HB]

Budinger wasnt invited to the camp

And I chuckled about Demarcus being a skilled and polished player. He is Hassan Adams part deux

[Chef]

George Hill did a pretty nice showing at the combine. What do you guys think? He might be a second rounder

[Vermillion]

I'm actually surprised about Love's height...I thought he would be about 6'8 in shoes.