[HKF]

The reason I ask this is because every time a true 7'0 player is playing in the NCAA tournament, they are always in foul trouble. Last year it was Greg Oden, this year it was Roy Hibbert and both Lopez twins. Next year, BJ Mullens and Greg Monroe come into college, but Monroe is more of a face up 4 man.

I know everyone keeps saying that college basketball is a guard's game, but I find it ridiculous that a big man can get called for 3 offensive fouls, two of which off of normal post ups. The refs call him for getting his elbows up, even when the big man is 7'2 and the man guarding him is 6'8. Of course his elbows would be by his head
I know it will seem like I am angry cause Georgetown lost and I am, but as someone who actually enjoys seeing big men in the game, it sucks that they are never allowed to play.

Even though I don't like DeAndre Jordan, if I am him, I declare for the draft just because they are never going to allow him to play without being in constant foul trouble.

The only 7'0 bigs who can succeed are the ones who strictly face the basket or are undersized because guys can't completely flop under you. Only in college basketball is a guy like Tyler Hansbrough more effective than Greg Oden.

[fjkdsi]

It's not that they aren't good for college ball any more

Hibbert has been very effective throughout his career and of course Oden led Ohio St to the championship game.

However I completely agree with you on the foul stuff. I really think the NCAA should make 6 fouls instead of 5 to foul out.

Of course the game is shorter than the NBA (40 minutes as opposed to 48) and the shot clock is 35 seconds but because the court is smaller, the 3 point line is closer this brings the player a lot closer and makes a more physical game. Also typically NCAA offense is more team oriented and less individual than in the NBA which also makes big men more prone to foul trouble. Finally young athletic big men are often still learning the game when they enter college and commit ticky tack fouls. I really think 6 fouls would help this problem.
If a guy commits 2 quick ones in the first half they don't half sit out basically the rest of the half.

[HB]

I thought the Lopez twins were doing well in the college game

[HKF]

It's easier I'd say when you have two guys that are 7'0 playing together. Not to mention in every game they play, the Lopez's are in foul trouble.

[Nimreitz]

One thing I dislike about the college game is how big guys are terrified to go for a block. I don't want my 7 foot shot blocker standing still with his hands up, or trying to take a charge. I want him blocking shots, but the refs just don't allow that.

[pG_prIDe]

I agree with HKF on this one. Roy wasn't even allowed to play yesterday, and I have seen that often in the limited number of Georgetown games I was able to catch this season. It's sad when post players above 6'10" aren't able to play up to their ability in college, it takes away from the fan's viewing experience (especially an NBA fan's interest in seeing some of the hottest prospects in college go to work).

[luther]

I don't think this is the case. It's not like we've got some huge sample size of high-quality 7-footers who have been in the college ranks the past decade or so whose performance in the tourney we can review. As everyone bemoans at the drop of a hat, there aren't that many quality 7-foot centers anyway, at all, anywhere. And since the mid- to late 90s, the bulk of those who project to be great players have skipped college altogether. That leaves less talented ones in college. Less talented guys are less likely to get calls. Less talented guys are more likely to foul. If we saw Ewing, Robinson, Olajuwon and the like all being tossed, that would be one thing. But those aren't guys we're talking about.

That said, the NCAA has emphasized cleaning up post play. And players have to adjust to how the games are being called.

[HKF]

We saw Greg Oden in foul trouble all last year. Same with Spencer Hawes. I'd say those guys are quality big men, at least in correlation to their impact on the college level. Brook Lopez is constantly in foul trouble and had to sit for a good five minutes against Marquette, rotating in and out with his brother, to make sure he didn't foul out.

[HB]

Originally Posted by Nimreitz

One thing I dislike about the college game is how big guys are terrified to go for a block. I don't want my 7 foot shot blocker standing still with his hands up, or trying to take a charge. I want him blocking shots, but the refs just don't allow that.

Are you sure about this? First of all how many 7 footers are there in college? How many are true shot blockers? Brook Lopez averaged 2.1 bpg for the season. Guys like Varnardo dont seem to have problems blocking shots, refs don't seem to affect him.

[MemphisX]

Varnado gets his blocks through athleticism. World class athleticism. Players who get their blocks through playing position defense are going to be called for more fouls in college. Big guys create contact and in college they get called for fouls.