[MemphisX]

Originally Posted by knickstorm

dante is not going to a team and given shots like durant......therefore he's gotta learn how to play within a team concept, and he can learn it in college.....the attitude of "what can the school do for me" is probably the reason he didnt have the impact of a rose/beasely/etc.....dante doesnt play hard agressive ball, and that's probably due to the fact that he never had to in HS competition.....it's about him learning it since you cant teach a kid to play hard, he either does or he doesnt........if dante green had half the mentality of hansborough he'd be a top 5 lock.

lol i went to syracuse so i can tell you, Paul Harris is holding himself back.....he's got major character/dedication issues.....i mean for 1, his brother was dating the mother of his kids at some point a year or 2 ago.......i'm not saying dante cant learn it in the pros, but why not learn it in college if it'll get you paid more in a year?? and obviously it would be an easier transition to the NBA if he learned to stop drifting so much in college first.....i liken paul harriss to josh mcroberts......did duke hold him back or did he hold himself back??? he held himself back........

Exactly, this is my point on all early entries. If you are going to put in the work then you should declare as early as possible to get to your next contract. If he is going to dedicate himself, why not get paid also.

Also, the problem at Syracuse is he was playing those kids 38 minutes a night and they were gassed by February. No depth, no size. One PG.

[knickstorm]

Originally Posted by MemphisX

Exactly, this is my point on all early entries. If you are going to put in the work then you should declare as early as possible to get to your next contract. If he is going to dedicate himself, why not get paid also.

Also, the problem at Syracuse is he was playing those kids 38 minutes a night and they were gassed by February. No depth, no size. One PG.

if he's going to dedicate himself then it's worth staying because he'll get paid more albeit one year later.......right now he's lotto by most standards, but i'm sure when the smoke clears and people see he just doesnt seem have a desire to be the best he can be, his stock will fall.........

let's say he gets drafted more towards 20th than 10th this year, which i think will happen......that's about 7.8 mill over the first 5 years assuming the team keeps picking up their option......10th pick is 11.2 mill over the first 5 years........is it not worth staying in school for another year in exchange for an extra 3+mill assuming you put the work in????plus the more NBA ready you are, the better the chance that the team will toss the rookie scale out the window and want to sign you long term before the rookie contract is over.

plus if you're drafted higher, your team is gonna try to do more to help you succeed than if you were a mid to late 1st rounder because they've invested more in you....of course there's no guaranttee next year but i guarrantee the depth of next year's class will not match beasely, rose, mayo, bayless, etc.....

i'd consider Scoop Jardine a PG,,,,,nothing you can do when you got players tearing their acl's and leaving the program, but it's not like greene took the ball to the hoop early and then stopped cause he's tired.....he never really played all that aggressive in general.

[HKF]

MemphisX, he works for the press in NYC and went to Syracuse. What is the point of arguing with him?

[Nimreitz]

Originally Posted by knickstorm

let's say he gets drafted more towards 20th than 10th this year, which i think will happen......that's about 7.8 mill over the first 5 years assuming the team keeps picking up their option......10th pick is 11.2 mill over the first 5 years........is it not worth staying in school for another year in exchange for an extra 3+mill assuming you put the work in????plus the more NBA ready you are, the better the chance that the team will toss the rookie scale out the window and want to sign you long term before the rookie contract is over.

If he comes out early then he will make 7.8 mill by the time he is 24. If he stays another year he will make 11.2 mill by the time he is 25. By that point the MLE will be at least 7 mill, which is the minimum contract he will likely sign.

If he come out now he makes 15 mill by the time he is 25, if he waits a year, it's 11.2. Do you now understand?

[luther]

An interesting name has appeared on the early-entrant list: Keith Brumbaugh, former Oklahoma St. signee.

[HKF]

Originally Posted by luther

An interesting name has appeared on the early-entrant list: Keith Brumbaugh, former Oklahoma St. signee.

He's in for good. I think he's 22 now, so he is going to take his chances playing professional ball from now on (regardless of where he plays).

[luther]

Originally Posted by HKF

He's in for good.

As a JuCo, he would have to be in for good, wouldn't he? I thought that the last time they adjusted early entrance rules, that was part of the deal.

I just checked his b-day, and it is 7/29/85. So yeah, he certainly would be pretty old to be starting as a junior at some major college program. I would've liked to see him in some real games, personally. Never got the chance. Maybe never will now, because while I don't doubt he's a pro, he doesn't seem to be a guarantee to make an NBA team.

[HKF]

He will probably go to the D-League first. He always could play, but dude was a headcase. His agent will probably convince him to start in the D, because NBA teams can see him first hand to see that he truly is changed. If he can't get an NBA deal, he will then go overseas. It's a good risk to take as a 22 year old.

[luther]

Holy ****, I knew Brumbaugh had had problems, but check out this quote from a Chad Ford article on his entrance to the draft:

Brumbaugh, 6-foot-9 and 205 pounds, averaged 36.5 points, 10 rebounds, 6.1 assists and 4.8 steals at HCC and will likely be a second-round pick.

"They all say he can play," HCC Coach Derrick Worrels told the newspaper of the pro scouts evaluating Brumbaugh. "The questions they have are mainly, 'What do we have to concern ourselves with outside the court?' "

Brumbaugh was arrested six times over a 26-month span and also served two jail sentences, but he says he's learned from his mistakes.

Six times in just under two years? In jail twice? He should've been on John Lucas's old Miami Tropics of the USBL. That's the team he belongs on. I hope his life is in order, but it's hard to put a lot of faith in a guy who doesn't learn from the first five arrests...

[croco]

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2008-Official-NBA-Draft-Early-Entry-List-/

[nothinbutnets]

IS anyone having a Draft Party or something cool/does your team of choice do anything?