[HB]

I dont know if Rose's passing is as good as Deron, CP3 or Nash by the way. He played on a pretty talented team and only averaged 5 apg. Deron in his first two seasons averaged over 6 apg on less talented squads. Same thing for Paul, who never dipped below 5.9 assists his whole tenure in college

[HB]

Another guy Rose' game reminds me of is Devin Harris

[thaKEAF]

He might not be a better passer than them but those assist numbers are affected greatly by the type of offense Memphis runs. Each player on the court touches the ball on most of their trips down the court, which is why his numbers aren't as high as they could be in the assist column.

[croco]

Mebury and Francis aren't good comparisons, they have never been team first and they have never won anything in the league.

Of course he isn't as good a passer compared to those three you mentioned, but they are also a lot older, more mature and by far the better players overall, there is no denying it. However he has shown the ability to make passes and create plays when there isn't much, he has vision and is only going to get better.

Also I see where you are coming from, in the dribble drive motion system Memphis plays you are not going to get that many assists. Plus the Tigers don't really have great outside shooting, it will be easier for him in the NBA to drive and dish than in college.

[HB]

But isnt he a create for himself/score first point rather than a pass then score/create for himself type player? Not saying he cant pass, but rather he seems more comfortable scoring

BTW why is Beasley not getting love in this thread?

[croco]

I don't think he has a score first mentality, he has to get better at making the right decision and see what the defense gives him. That is one of the most important things for a point guard, you can't have the mentality that you are definitely going to score or pass the ball before you read the defense.

As for Beasley, it's probably because he hasn't played a game in two weeks.

[Jwill55gRizZ]

HB, you are rediculous.. You need to cool it on the under-rating of Rose. As much hype he gets there are always people that come in and have to detract from what he does.. same thing happened to LeBron..Same with Durant.. just enjoy the guy for What he does do..
My thing is that not a lot of people watch memphis games outside the one's in primetime (i know i know u watched them against Texas El Paso..).. My thing is that Rose has no good shooters on his team. If you put this guy on a team with durant or a team with mccants or a team with Gay/miller (the teams he is likely to goto) he will look like Steve Nash out there because there will be so little ways to cover him.. The thing that is difficult for him and is surprising he is able to overcome now is that people pack in they key off their weak shooting guards.. how he gets any assists outside lobs or dump passes to the post surprises me..

[HB]

Originally Posted by Jwill55gRizZ

HB, you are rediculous.. You need to cool it on the under-rating of Rose. As much hype he gets there are always people that come in and have to detract from what he does.. same thing happened to LeBron..Same with Durant.. just enjoy the guy for What he does do..
My thing is that not a lot of people watch memphis games outside the one's in primetime (i know i know u watched them against Texas El Paso..).. My thing is that Rose has no good shooters on his team. If you put this guy on a team with durant or a team with mccants or a team with Gay/miller (the teams he is likely to goto) he will look like Steve Nash out there because there will be so little ways to cover him.. The thing that is difficult for him and is surprising he is able to overcome now is that people pack in they key off their weak shooting guards.. how he gets any assists outside lobs or dump passes to the post surprises me..

Okay!

Rose plays on the most talented team in the country, you are right thats probably whats stopping him from piling on artists.

[Nimreitz]

Originally Posted by HB

But isnt he a create for himself/score first point rather than a pass then score/create for himself type player? Not saying he cant pass, but rather he seems more comfortable scoring

BTW why is Beasley not getting love in this thread?

I think he willingly defers when his team doesn't need him to score. The only times I've seen him actively look to create for himself is when Memphis is in trouble, and most of the time he gets them out of trouble.

[MB30]

To me, Beasley is still the number one pick.