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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
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Originally Posted by AlThornton
OJ shot a worse percentage than Rose in that game.
Rose also had more rebounds more blocks more assists and more steals.
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OJ had to score for USC to have any chance in that game. His role was to score not to run the team. He forced a ton of shots because there was simply no one else who was a reliable scorer on that squad.
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05-26-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
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He shut him down when they played this season (silverpaw provided the statistics). Way worse at playing PG? You know this how? Mayo played the Shooting Guard position for USC this year. He HAD to shoot a ton most games just to give USC a chance to score enough points to win games. He also played with Daniel Hackett who played the PG position and had a year experience over Mayo at the college level. Rose is still the #1 pick in my mind but to say Mayo is a way worse PG is off-base. Floyd needed him to score points for them to win.
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I'm sorry, but who gives a **** if Mayo shut down Rose, when Mayo played at the same level in that game?
Also, I don't see why it's wrong to conclude Rose is the better PG prospect when he actually played PG last year. That's a tremendous advantage.
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05-26-2008, 04:18 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
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OJ had to score for USC to have any chance in that game. His role was to score not to run the team. He forced a ton of shots because there was simply no one else who was a reliable scorer on that squad.
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Those mere 7 points more than Rose with less assists and rebounds, and more misses really worked well for USC.
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05-26-2008, 06:52 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
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Also, I don't see why it's wrong to conclude Rose is the better PG prospect when he actually played PG last year. That's a tremendous advantage.
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True, Raymond Felton has turned out to be a much better NBA point guard than Deron Williams (who played SG at Illinois).
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05-26-2008, 07:02 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
Deron Williams was taken before Raymond Felton though...
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05-26-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
I'm sorry, did I miss something? Has the draft already occurred? But, hey, you're right, Shane Battier was selected before Joe Johnson, and he's proved to be the much better in the long run.
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05-26-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
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OJ shot a worse percentage than Rose in that game.
Rose also had more rebounds more blocks more assists and more steals.
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Noone is talking about Mayo's offensive or rebounding game, bright one. The question was whether or not he shut Rose down, that only concerns his defense.
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05-26-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
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I'm sorry, did I miss something? Has the draft already occurred? But, hey, you're right, Shane Battier was selected before Joe Johnson, and he's proved to be the much better in the long run.
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Im not following your sarcasm...
Noone said Mayo cant be the best player in this draft class. Fact is, his season was less spectacular than those of Beasley and Rose. Therefore he wont go number 1.
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05-26-2008, 10:03 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
Actually, someone was saying that Mayo would never be as good as the other two, I was simply addressing his comments (i.e., that the fact that Mayo wasn't playing the point during his one and done was proof that he would never be as good a point guard as Rose).
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05-26-2008, 11:01 PM
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Re: OJ Mayo #1 Pick?
Fair enough - I meant to say that I didnt say it :P
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