Draft Winners/Losers

[Nimreitz]

Originally Posted by HB

Lol not for the Celts

You don't consider needs at 27 because no one you're going to get there will fill any of them.

Originally Posted by HB

Really surprised at the way Sacramento is viewing Jimmer. Seems the city won with the pick. They are talking about him being a rockstar out there.

Must not be any black folks in Sacramento, because only whitey could rally behind Jimmer as the next big thing.

[Pacers Fan]

Originally Posted by Diable

I am actually pretty interested to see how Wall develops this season. I was pretty underwhelmed by him this past season and a lot of the stuff I did not like was a lack of fundamentals and poor decision making. I realize that the talent on that team wasn't great, but I did not really see much impact from him and unless he becomes a lot more efficient I do not know that we shall see the impact that was expected of him.

Wall's the kind of PG that needs decent players around him for him to be any good. He's not really close to either, but I see more Chris Paul in him than Derrick Rose. He's not going to score 30 points a night to lead his team to victory. Keep in mind that his best offensive options are Nick Young, Jordan Crawford, and Andray Blatche, followed by Rashard Lewis, Josh Howard, and the occasional alley-oop to JaVale McGee. The Wizards have a ton of selfish isolation players and that's not the kind of team that's going to have success with John Wall.

Must not be any black folks in Sacramento, because only whitey could rally behind Jimmer as the next big thing.

If Tupac were still alive, he would be rocking a purple Jimmer Fredette jersey.

[apatel]

Loser...Knicks
I was extremely disappointed with their pick. They could have gotten much better talent. A few to name...Kenneth Faried, Nolan Smith, Tobias Harris, Jordan Hamilton.

[Cinco de Mayo]

Originally Posted by Nimreitz

Biyombo is the worst top 10 pick in the last 5 years. At least.

[Nimreitz]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Nimreitz]

Originally Posted by HKF

Wait? The Heat got Norris Cole? God damnit. If they re-sign Chalmers, those two guys are the perfect kind of guys to play off Wade and Bron. Before Norris' breakout senior year, he was a lockdown defender at the point. He will become one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA (not saying he'll be Lindsey Hunter, but he'll be damn good).

I can't stop thinking about HKF riding this guy for years whenever I hear Norris Cole's name, so I'll bump this.

[E.H. Munro]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Watters

And I really want to hear why JuJuan Johnson at #27 makes the Celtics losers. This ought to be a hoot...

In fairness I have to admit that you were right, the Celtics were winners in the 2011 draft, as they turned the "guy that would have been picked over Kyrie Irving if he were 50 lbs heavier" and their "shooting guard of the future" into Courtney Lee. But you would think that with that much talent going out they could have done better than a decent SG.

[Wade County]

Solid bump.

[zagsfan20]

Lillard sux!!!!!!!!!!!

D'oh

[E.H. Munro]

I'm pretty sure that I said that Lowry's better than Lillard, which is true because Lowry's pretty damned good. Which is just a little different than saying that Lillard sucks. And it would definitely have been a better idea to have paired the 27 year old LMA with a vet point guard like Lowry rather than wasting two years of his prime for Lillard to get up to speed.

[zagsfan20]

Originally Posted by E.H. Munro

I'm pretty sure that I said that Lowry's better than Lillard, which is true because Lowry's pretty damned good. Which is just a little different than saying that Lillard sucks. And it would definitely have been a better idea to have paired the 27 year old LMA with a vet point guard like Lowry rather than wasting two years of his prime for Lillard to get up to speed.

I'm referring to your draft grades rant.

[E.H. Munro]

I know what you're referring to, hence my going back and restating what I explicitly said. That the 'Blazers rejected a better player than Lillard for the #6 pick when their cornerstone player is 27 and will spend his prime spinning his wheels waiting for Lillard to figure out the position. If Lillard were a franchise player, then maybe they'd have a point. But I just don't see it. They'd still be better off with Lowry.

[zagsfan20]

You act like at 27, Aldridge is peaking out of his prime...

[E.H. Munro]

NBA players' prime years tend to be 25-29. LMA is in the middle is his prime. Rather than adding a real running mate at the top of his game they went out and grabbed a kid so that Aldridge can waste his prime hoping that Lillard gets as good as Lowry is. Bad move.

[zagsfan20]

Originally Posted by E.H. Munro

NBA players' prime years tend to be 25-29. LMA is in the middle is his prime. Rather than adding a real running mate at the top of his game they went out and grabbed a kid so that Aldridge can waste his prime hoping that Lillard gets as good as Lowry is. Bad move.

Lillard's 22, the learning curve should take as long as a guy drafted as a 19 or 20 year old. Lillard has a chance to be way better than Lowry. Looking around the league at the great players, I'd say the prime years stretch out a little further than you would say, its a case by case basis though and many variables have to be taken to account. Aldridge's game isn't predicated on physicality, I think he'll play good into his early 30's.

Were banking on a core of Lillard, Batum and Aldridge. There's only about 4-5 years between them.

I think many other pundits would agree with me that Lillard has a much higher ceiling than Lowry.