Anthony Davis: What's his ceiling?

[Dre]

They got out of it didn't they. It was a risk worth taking at the time. They would've amnestied him if he hadn't retired.

Stop nitpicking me about everything, they're a solid organization. There's a lot shittier out there.

[jayk009]

Originally Posted by Dre

They got out of it didn't they. It was a risk worth taking at the time. They would've amnestied him if he hadn't retired.

Stop nitpicking me about everything, they're a solid organization. There's a lot shittier out there.

and the amnesty clause existed when they gave him that extension?

I'm pretty sure they DID use the amnesty clause on him, and they didn't really get out of it considering they still have to pay him.

Were they also the same team that tried to threaten legal action if any team signed darius miles to a contract?

[Dre]

They knew amnesty was coming in the new CBA if things didn't work out. They gambled, they lost. It happens. And at the time of the signing the knees weren't as bad as they ultimately became.

Don't rewrite history, it went from a "ok he won't have a long career, but we'll bite the bullet for his prime production" to "shit, he can't run" fast, but it wasn't something that was obvious. People wondered about it, but if I bump that you won't see people unanimously saying it was just a horrible decision. The damage to Roy's knee set in faster than expected.

And so because they threatened legal action on Darius Miles means they're not the best situation of the current bottom 5 for Anthony Davis, who this whole thing was initially about? What are you arguing this to the death for

[jayk009]

I think you're arguing with yourself here...

I'm making a point that Portland's management is not as great as you are making it out to be but you're turning into something completely different.

Of course you always have to think you win in an argument so you will always reply to me and spin it into something it's not and act like you won...

You say that Portland knew for a fact that there would be an amnesty clause and you tell me not to rewrite history...You're making it seem like they knew for a fact that the amnesty would exist which is not the case...If they were so good at telling the future then maybe they wouldn't have signed Roy to that extension or taken Oden with the 1st pick..

[Kidd]

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

They didn't steal it, it was given to them.

[Knicks4life]

Originally Posted by Dre

They knew amnesty was coming in the new CBA if things didn't work out. They gambled, they lost. It happens. And at the time of the signing the knees weren't as bad as they ultimately became.

You sure about that if I remember correctly the only thing that was being talked about back then was the Allan Houston rule coming back to help teams in the Lux Tax and that news came a few month after the contract was signed.

[jayk009]

Anyways back to Anthony Davis.....

IMO he is a mix between Joakim Noah and Udonis Haslem

[Kidd]

...what kind of comparison is that lmao

[BlakeJesus]

Portland's management is great.

Here's my logic on the whole thing, and I got this from listening to podcasts where they talk with GM's and coaches/scouts. If you follow a basic gameplan that makes logical sense, more times than not that's going to lead to success, right? Nobody knew Greg Oden was going to have knees made of glass (sorry, a wrist injury in college doesn't make it obvious that you've got the knees of a 55 year old construction worker). They have done a good job of hitting on a lot of their picks, and they did a great job acquiring those picks for very little value in return. Batum was a great late round pick, Aldridge was a great pick that took some coaching and development to really pan out (reflects well on Portland). It was arguable that Brandon Roy was a top 10 player in the league before his knees gave out, and for the most part they do a good job of bringing in high character guys who enjoy playing a "role". I mean, they've been a perenial playoff team despite having horrific luck with injuries up and down the roster. The main point was, you're not going to hit on every draft pick or free agent signing, but as long you make decisions that generally make sense the results will eventually even out.

I mean, look at the Thunder. They've managed to be successful with basically every decision they've made in the past few years, but if a few variables are different than they are probably the Blazers right now.

[Vuchato]

He's the next Riley Thurman

[BlakeJesus]

Originally Posted by jayk009

Anyways back to Anthony Davis.....

IMO he is a mix between Joakim Noah and Udonis Haslem

That doesn't make any sense because neither of those guys are big time shotblockers. That's literally Anthony Davis' one absolute defining skill and you just compared him to a big time rebounder and a jump shooting powerforward.

[jayk009]

Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

That doesn't make any sense because neither of those guys are big time shotblockers. That's literally Anthony Davis' one absolute defining skill and you just compared him to a big time rebounder and a jump shooting powerforward.

I don't think his shotblocking dominance will translate to the NBA level. He will have to rework the way he plays D because there is no way he will be able to replicate what he is doing now. He is no Greg Oden when it comes to being a big defensive presence.

I know alot of people wont agree with me on this but I don't think his size can translate into him being a top defensive bigman in the NBA.

I think he will be able to hustle his way to getting his boards, and his offense will be from his hustle and ability to hit those mid range jumpers.

Him playing against division 1 players vs. NBA players wil be alot different and my comparison is based on how I think his game will be adjusted once he gets to the NBA.

[jayk009]

but I admit, my comparison is moreso on the offensive side then the defensive side....

[Kidd]

Originally Posted by jayk009

I don't think his shotblocking dominance will translate to the NBA level. He will have to rework the way he plays D because there is no way he will be able to replicate what he is doing now. He is no Greg Oden when it comes to being a big defensive presence.

I know alot of people wont agree with me on this but I don't think his size can translate into him being a top defensive bigman in the NBA.

I think he will be able to hustle his way to getting his boards, and his offense will be from his hustle and ability to hit those mid range jumpers.

Him playing against division 1 players vs. NBA players wil be alot different and my comparison is based on how I think his game will be adjusted once he gets to the NBA.

I do agree with this though. Greg Oden was something special.

[Nimreitz]

Originally Posted by jayk009

I don't think his shotblocking dominance will translate to the NBA level. He will have to rework the way he plays D because there is no way he will be able to replicate what he is doing now. He is no Greg Oden when it comes to being a big defensive presence.

He has a 7'4'' wingspan though.

BTW, guys bulk up all the time. Every player does. They do it gradually, but saying he won't put on 40 pounds of muscle in the next 5 years is stupid.