Reply

Old 06-10-2002, 07:06 PM   #16 (permalink)
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 29
Posts: 23
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 0 RunninRaven is on a distinguished road
The strange thing about Tsik is that he is not even starting at his position. His stock is based purely on potential alone. Heard of Bostjan Nachbar? He is taking Tsik's minutes right now. I think this will likely be the first time in history that a backup player gets drafted well above the person playing above him.
__________________
By reading this post out loud, you have waived any legal
responsibility on my part in perpetuity throughout the universe.
RunninRaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 06-10-2002, 08:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
Player
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Oz
Age: 37
Posts: 553
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 75069 Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute Shaqs big toe has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Re: Biggest Bust?

Quote:
Originally posted by Sicky Dimpkins

Read the "Official Measurements" thread on this forum and compare Gooden and Wilcox for "size".

In a relative sense I'll pick Jay Williams. Not because I think he'll be bad but because the hype has him so high.
Also, it seems that point guards take a little longer to come around in the NBA
Shaqs big toe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2002, 10:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,209
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 9393 STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute STING has a reputation beyond repute
Alot of people doubt that gooden will make a good NBA player, but I think otherwize. They complain about his size, but size is always something that can be improved. I would worry about players with more serious disadvantages, like Wilcox's lack of range, or Jay Willaims's lack of first step explosiveness, things that are better if they come naturally to a player.

My top three busts:

Curtis Borchardt: Just too slow to make it in the NBA, maybe developing into a backup, but i dont see much more out of him.

Jay Wlliams: I really think Jay Williams has a lot of upside, but the NBA isn't friendly at all to pointguards who cant leave their man reeling with their first step.

Jared Jeffries: I just think that for his postition, alot more size, strength, agility, and range is needed, all of which i believe he lacks.
__________________
STING
STING is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2002, 09:46 AM   #19 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Age: 32
Posts: 1,170
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 129153 Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute Wishbone has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by Shaqs big toe


Shown where? He hasn't even played a game yet. Mark my words, these 7'6" guys are never agile enough.

He was playing in China against... who? No, that is not another chinese name like Ming, Wong, Who???

He has been like a man playing with boys. Now he will be a man playing with men. Big step up for a thin guy equals....

.... BUST
there've been some tall skinny guys who played quite well in the NBA -- before injuries, Ralph Sampson was AWSOME! even Manute Bol had a couple of good seasons before his knees wore out

last years draft -- Pau Gasol showed he could play in the L... Tyson Chandler had more than a couple brilliant flashes throughout the year

i don't think you can generalize that skinny equals bust -- too many good players came into this league stick thin, and still hung with the big boys.

Yao Ming may turn into a solid, productive player in the NBA -- but his timetable is probably on par with the average straight from HS player.
Wishbone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2002, 10:14 AM   #20 (permalink)
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 29
Posts: 23
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 0 RunninRaven is on a distinguished road
Don't forget Bill Walton. Before his knees gave out on him, he had a good shot to be one of the greatest, most well rounded centers of all time.
__________________
By reading this post out loud, you have waived any legal
responsibility on my part in perpetuity throughout the universe.
RunninRaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2002, 03:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 63
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 853 Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute Tmac'sPack has a reputation beyond repute
I think it'll be Gooden or Dunleavy.
__________________
Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with a seat missing, but it hurts.-Drebin, Naked Gun 2 1/2
Tmac'sPack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2002, 05:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Underworld, where the Illuminati reside
Posts: 2,182
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 855 JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute JOHNNY_BRAVisimO has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by Shaqs big toe


Shown where? He hasn't even played a game yet. Mark my words, these 7'6" guys are never agile enough.

He was playing in China against... who? No, that is not another chinese name like Ming, Wong, Who???

He has been like a man playing with boys. Now he will be a man playing with men. Big step up for a thin guy equals....

.... BUST
so tyson and eddy were playing against men?
JOHNNY_BRAVisimO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2002, 08:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
-PREMIUM MEMBER-
 
Damian Necronamous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 17,369
Credits: 39,007.24
Rep Power: 1564910 Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute Damian Necronamous has a reputation beyond repute
There will be a few

Wilcox, the Cavs might take him
Gooden, lack of size
Yao Ming, I just can't see the Chinese gov. letting him play a lot
Jeffries, lack of size, I never really thought much of him in college
__________________
Chick Hearn: This game is in the refrigerator. The door is closed, the lights are out, the eggs are gettin' cool, the butter's gettin' hard, and the jellooooooo's jigglin'!

The 2009-2010 Los Angeles Lakers
PG: Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar
SG: Kobe Bryant, Shannon Brown, Sasha Vujacic
SF: Ron Artest, Luke Walton, Adam Morrison
PF: Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom, Josh Powell
C: Andrew Bynum, D.J. Mbenga
Damian Necronamous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2002, 10:43 PM   #24 (permalink)
k^2
Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Keystone State
Posts: 636
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 9391 k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute k^2 has a reputation beyond repute
Mike Dunleavy Jr. will be a bust. "Jack of all trades, master of none." He's a good shooter, but a lot of people can shoot in the NBA. My opinion is that he doesn't have the speed to be a superstar in the NBA. He should be a good player but nothing that special, some people are saying he's the most complete player to enter the draft in years, please .
__________________
The history of human opinion is scarcely anything more than the history of human errors. - voltaire
k^2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2002, 10:04 AM   #25 (permalink)
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 29
Posts: 23
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 0 RunninRaven is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally posted by k^2
Mike Dunleavy Jr. will be a bust. "Jack of all trades, master of none." He's a good shooter, but a lot of people can shoot in the NBA. My opinion is that he doesn't have the speed to be a superstar in the NBA. He should be a good player but nothing that special, some people are saying he's the most complete player to enter the draft in years, please .
And another interesting thing about Mike is that, while he is lauded as a good shooter, the guy only hit 37% of his college 3 point attempts and shot 69% from the FT line last year. To me, those are not numbers indicative of a great shooter. And if a player like Dunleavy Jr. is not at the very least a good shooter, if not a great one, he probably won't survive too long in the NBA.

He hasn't really started individual workouts yet, and I think his hype and tourney effort are really helping propel him high in the draft right now. But once he starts showing individual teams his skills, I think you might end up seeing a Rodney White-esque drop come draft day.
__________________
By reading this post out loud, you have waived any legal
responsibility on my part in perpetuity throughout the universe.
RunninRaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2003, 05:44 PM   #26 (permalink)
Fomer Admins are Kewl!
 
BEEZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Living Room Couch
Posts: 15,466
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 2649619 BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Biggest Bust?

Quote:
Originally posted by <b>CoolHandLuke</b>!
Who's going to be the biggest bust in this draft? I'd say that it will be Gooden, just because of his lack of size or apparently will to gain size. And I think Yao Ming will be the worst pick of the draft, but since I haven't seen him in any in-game action, I can't really say for sure. Borchardt is a guy a lot of people think will bust, but I really don't agree with them. Jay Williams I have heard doubts about too, from the experts, saying he could be very good, but not a great point. Amare Stoudemire could be really good or really bad.

What are your opinions?

How bout them words CHL
__________________
I have no clue!

BEEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2003, 05:45 PM   #27 (permalink)
Fomer Admins are Kewl!
 
BEEZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Living Room Couch
Posts: 15,466
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 2649619 BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by <b>Devestata</b>!
Yao Ming, Drew Gooden and Jared Jefferies. And I wouldn't count out maybe Qyntel Woods either. And If Wilcox doesn't develop his game.. well he'll bust. IMO.
You too Dev
__________________
I have no clue!

BEEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2003, 05:46 PM   #28 (permalink)
Fomer Admins are Kewl!
 
BEEZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Living Room Couch
Posts: 15,466
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 2649619 BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute
Quote:
Originally posted by <b>Shaqs big toe</b>!


Shown where? He hasn't even played a game yet. Mark my words, these 7'6" guys are never agile enough.

He was playing in China against... who? No, that is not another chinese name like Ming, Wong, Who???

He has been like a man playing with boys. Now he will be a man playing with men. Big step up for a thin guy equals....

.... BUST
Eating his words:chee:
__________________
I have no clue!

BEEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2003, 05:47 PM   #29 (permalink)
Fomer Admins are Kewl!
 
BEEZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Living Room Couch
Posts: 15,466
Credits: 25.00
Rep Power: 2649619 BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute BEEZ has a reputation beyond repute
Re: There will be a few

Quote:
Originally posted by <b>Damian Necronamous</b>!
Wilcox, the Cavs might take him
Gooden, lack of size
Yao Ming, I just can't see the Chinese gov. letting him play a lot

Jeffries, lack of size, I never really thought much of him in college
You to Damian
__________________
I have no clue!

BEEZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2003, 07:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
Icon
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 36,862
Credits: 45,731.87
Rep Power: 19270565 ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute ATLien has a reputation beyond repute
pretty funny stuff.... I think China is more interested into making $$$$$ than being commys
ATLien is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Vollyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios