[droppinknowledge]

Originally posted by Scinos!


Wow, some serious over exaggeration here. Blocked 80 shots in summer league ? LOL, try 16 shots. He's horribly raw on the offensive end, 41% from the field and a 43% foul shooter. RMR stats. He has a long way to go...

Also, Booth is not a good center. He blocks some shots, but that doesn't make him a defensive presence. He is about 230 lbs and is very soft in man to man defense, he gets backed down easily and is a terrible rebounder. He will not improve the Mavs in any way IMO.

and does kandi man iimprove the wolves? by describing booth you just described kandi man


you also forgot his stats from the long beach summer leagues which was around another 20 blocks. I meant 50 blocks and not 80 in very limited mins. the mavs did play in more than one summer league. There was also around another 10 blocks against the chinest national team in 3 games.

[droppinknowledge]

Originally posted by Pan Mengtu!


Apparently you don't understand argument. You started out your argument just fine, making points of why you think the mavs are underrated. Then some people came back at you with rebuttals saying why your argument wasn't very good. See arguments are made up of premises and conclusions. Your conclusion was that the mavs are a sleeper. To refute your argument your adversaries said that your premises are false. Then you went on a launch about how their teams aren't very good. If you think you're right, you should be sticking to the argument, and showing how your premises are correct. Saying that the wolves suck, that your adversaries don't brush their teeth, can't lift 10 pounds, or eat dog food might make you feel good about yourself, but it doesn't help your argument at all. In fact, it hurts it.

nope I said that CONSISTENCY is the key. A team making it out of round 1 ONCE IN 8 YEARS don't impress me. maybe that suffices you. But when I see a team get swept twice with the same choking star plyaer on it and him still doing what he was doing 2 and 3 years ago then I'm not a believer. maybe you have all that faith in the wolves but I don't

They have 2 injury prone pgs. their sf is also old. Wally is injury prone. This team just doesn't do it for me. now if that impresses you then so be it. But it's funny how the mavs can lose ONCE in round 1 and they aint elite evne after showing they are capable to going further. everyone has down years. Sad thing is even when the mavs made the WCF this board still didn't give them their respect. Even if they win a SHIP you guys won't give em any respect

Yall guys treat dirk like he's Dell Curry and does nothing but shoot 3s all game

Yall sad that Nash wasn't that good of a player til he left the mavs. Now the mavs are gonna be a lottery team because he's gone.

Ditto with Walker and jamison. They shouldn't be on othe mavs. they don't fit in. Then when the mavs trade em that's wrong too. LOL

[droppinknowledge]

Originally posted by Scinos!
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The Mavs payroll will still be 2nd highest in the league next season, and they are going to be there for a while too. The contracts of Bradley, Booth, Stackhouse, Najera and Abdul-Wahad run for the next 3-4 seasons at a combined 30 million per season. Not to mention the max contracts of Dirk and Finley that run for the next 4 years, plus the contracts of all the young players. The Mavs are going to be in luxury tax for the next 3 season, even if they let the expiring contracts go. How exactly is Cuban cutting payroll ?





You're very quick to turn on Nash, I bet you would have a different opinion if the Mavs did resign him.

maybe on the nash situation. B ut the mavs made him into what he is today. Molded his career. Gave him a huge paycheck when he hadn't earned it nor a starting job in this league and repaid em by walking out on em. I don't respect that so I have no respect for him either.


jhow is he cutting payroll?

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/dallas.htm

the mavs will slice almost 10 mil off the books by getting rid of these guys next year.

Yea it would have been nice to have nash on the team but if the mavs signed nash and let walker walk next year then they'd only slice 1.5 mil off the books. Terry is making half of what nash is making

as you can see over the next few years the mavs payroll will drop greatly

Cuban got rid of raef's bad contract
jamisons bad contract

and didn't resign nash

he's been trying to move wahad in a package deal but no one will do it or that contract would be gone too.

that's also the main reason the mavs didn't trade for jason kidd

[droppinknowledge]

Originally posted by kg_mvp03-04!


Yes the Kings have been good, but they still have yet to reach the promise land despite almost always having the best regular season record. Also im not a wolves fan i just like KG, the rest of the team outside of spree and the alien suck. Iam a Lakers and Raptors fan. i jsut can't see Dallas winning the Title with Dirk unless they get a shaq,Duncan, or KG. If you replace KG with dirk on the Mavs i think they will go further in the playoffs and possibly win the championship.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is just not smart at all

Dirk vs Kg

once again

Dirk put up 33 points and 16 boards while shooting 53 from 2 land

Kg put up 24 points and 19 boards while shooting 42 from 2 land


wally and chaucney put up 42 points per game
Nash and fin put up 46 points per game


the reason why the wolves got swept is cause kg got outplayed.

Against the blazers 2 years ago dirk had 2 40 point games IN ONE SERIES . Kg HAS NONE. there's no way that kg could carry the mavs on his back the way dirk has in the postseason. Once k.g reaches 20 points he usually stops shooting and thinks he's magic johnson.

[RP McMurphy]

Originally posted by droppinknowledge!


lol@this. you act like the mavs don't still have dirk and fin on this team. You act like these guys haven't won 50 plus games 4 years in a row and don't know what it takes to reach the postseason. this is just funny to me. They didn't totally overhaul their team like the lakers and rockets did. Just added a few pieces

What's your point? You were a 50-win team when you had a Top 5 point guard, now you don't have him anymore. Even if you only lose five or six wins because you lost Nash, that might be enough to drop you out of the playoffs. That's how hard the West is going to be next year.

I really like the Jamison-for-Harris trade for the long term, but Harris won't be as good as Jamison for a couple of years. In the meantime, that trade makes you a couple of games worse as well.

[radronOmega]

I got tired of this thread after the first page lol. I admire your optimistic view of your team but the team is just too young. Most of the talent there is practically a second year or first year player. The difference between this team and the Laker team is taht the llakers have third and fourth year players with Kobe and Rudy T at the helm. This team needs to really step it up on defense because that is their problem, not the rebounding. They lost rebounders and lost shot blockers to get rebounders back. Terry is good and all but he's more fit for a sg than a pg. He might cause problems like Antoine. Nash was a good decision because he was going to get busted by the end of this year but still his leaving HURT your team bad. Dirk is good but he doesn't help the defensive cause. Bradley is your center now lol. That's all I can add.

Though this team has potential in the future Cuban is going to break it up again after a few years, I just know it. He's trade happy.

[R-Star]

Originally posted by droppinknowledge!


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is just not smart at all

Dirk vs Kg

once again

Dirk put up 33 points and 16 boards while shooting 53 from 2 land

Kg put up 24 points and 19 boards while shooting 42 from 2 land


wally and chaucney put up 42 points per game
Nash and fin put up 46 points per game


the reason why the wolves got swept is cause kg got outplayed.

Against the blazers 2 years ago dirk had 2 40 point games IN ONE SERIES . Kg HAS NONE. there's no way that kg could carry the mavs on his back the way dirk has in the postseason. Once k.g reaches 20 points he usually stops shooting and thinks he's magic johnson.

If your trying to say Dirk is better than KG, then I do this to you

[Scinos]

Originally posted by droppinknowledge!
and does kandi man iimprove the wolves? by describing booth you just described kandi man

Well, I guess Kandi improved the Wolves so much that an 83 year old Ervin Johnson started over him. What makes it worse is that Kandi (as bad as he is) is still a better player than Calvin Booth.

you also forgot his stats from the long beach summer leagues which was around another 20 blocks. I meant 50 blocks and not 80 in very limited mins. the mavs did play in more than one summer league. There was also around another 10 blocks against the chinest national team in 3 games.

So it's 50 blocks now ? right...Even so, I find it hard to believe he's going to contribute anything this season. Will Nellie even play him ? his inept offensive game doesn't fit in with Nellie's small ball line ups and crazy schemes.

[Tersk]

K, mavs fan here

Dirk isnt as good as KG

They will be the 5/6 seed

Unfortunately all those centers are better than Booth

DJ Benga wont play that much this year

[J Blaze]

Originally posted by theo4002!
K, mavs fan here

Dirk isnt as good as KG

They will be the 5/6 seed

Unfortunately all those centers are better than Booth

DJ Benga wont play that much this year

5th or 6th in my opinion is pushing it a little:

San Antonio
Minnesota
Sacramento
Houston
Denver
Maybe Memphis
Maybe Phoenix
Maybe Utah

Dallas is in a dogfight with Memphis, Phoenix, and Utah for the 6 and on down seeds. No disrespect to Dallas, I'm just saying.

[Tersk]

Nar its sweet, your entitled to ure opinion and im entitled to mine

[J Blaze]

Originally posted by theo4002!
Nar its sweet, your entitled to ure opinion and im entitled to mine