[RoyWilliams]

Originally posted by SamTheMan67!
Michael Vick runs a 4.0 40 and LeBron guided his hs to some champsionship in HS

The first part is a joke right?>

[RoyWilliams]

Originally posted by Pinball!


Can you please post a link to those "numerous articles"?

There are no legit ones.

[RoyWilliams]

Originally posted by remy23!


I was watching the Falcons-Ravens game and the announcer said some guy ran a 4.15. I'm not kidding. But yeah, it's all insane stuff.

It was Hall, the Atlanta rookie cornerback, and it wasnt at the combine. It was at VIRGINIA TECH!!! I wonder if they fibbed a little.

[DQ for 3]

Originally posted by remy23!


I was watching the Falcons-Ravens game and the announcer said some guy ran a 4.15. I'm not kidding. But yeah, it's all insane stuff.

I would like to see track champion Maurice Greene run the 40. He's an incredible starter, so it would be interesting.

that was DeAngelo Hall, CB, from VTech...he's fast

Vick at a 4.0 40? Are you kidding me? Just saying that shows you don't understand football, 40 times, athletics, human anatomy, and much more....

and LeBron at a 4.3-40...we've talked about this before on this site, and it's hilarious that people think he's that fast. Don't get me wrong he's quick, but 4.3 is VERY fast.

[futuristxen]

Originally posted by Pinball!


It's not even that fast. The world's fastest man in 1988, Ben Johnson, ran a 9.79 100 meters and won the gold medal. It was later discovered that he was on steroids so he was stripped of his medal. However, they timed him over the entire race meter by meter and he ran a 4.69 40 meter dash. That converts to about a 4.29 40 yard dash time. He was a notoriously fast starter too so that can't be used as an excuse for his time. Amazing huh? Every HS football player supposedly runs a 4.3 or 4.4 which is about the same time as the 1988 100 meter world record holder who happened to be on steroids! It's no wonder that the kids who claim to run these 4.3 40s can't crack 4.6 at the combine. 4.4 is a damn fast time. Only one or two players crack it at the combine every year. Only one guy has ever run under 4.3 at the combine.

Your Ben Johnson example, while interesting, doesn't really mean much for this discussion IMO. Why would you time a 100 if you wanted a 40 time? If you took the fastest 400 time, and paired it down to a 100, people would scoff at that logic.

I'm not saying Lebron ran a 4.3, or that there's anyone in the NBA who can run a 4.3(Dan Gadzuric, maybe? ha). Just that converting a 100 meter time down to a 40 time to make an arguement about what is and isn't possible in the 40, doesn't make sense to me.


All of course is irrelevent. I don't really care what the numbers are for Lebron's vertical, and speed--because you don't need to see either number to watch Lebron play and realize he is a freak athlete.

[RP McMurphy]

Your Ben Johnson example, while interesting, doesn't really mean much for this discussion IMO. Why would you time a 100 if you wanted a 40 time? If you took the fastest 400 time, and paired it down to a 100, people would scoff at that logic.

I'm not saying Lebron ran a 4.3, or that there's anyone in the NBA who can run a 4.3(Dan Gadzuric, maybe? ha). Just that converting a 100 meter time down to a 40 time to make an arguement about what is and isn't possible in the 40, doesn't make sense to me.

In races that are 200 meters or shorter, runners are at a dead sprint the whole race. I don't see any reason why a 100-meter runner's split time at 40 yards would be any slower than their time in the 40 yard dash. In fact, Michael Johnson's world record in the 200 meter dash is less than twice the world record in the 100 meter dash.

Comparing it to the 400 meter dash doesn't make sense, because you can't sustain a dead sprint for 400 meters, you have to pace yourself a little bit. There's nothing wrong with Pinball's example, it's clear that no NBA player can run a 4.3.

[remy23]

Even though the 100 and 200 are total sprints, the runners lose speed in the course of the race. In the 100, when the runners are in the "crouch," they have maximum speed and they "hold" this speed for a certain distance. But about 3/4 of the way into the race, the runners slow down. Thus the runner who "holds" his top speed the best wins the race.

Michael Johnson's race was insane, considering he claimed he stumbled out of the blocks and was not happy with his running start. But what MJ did goes against logic.

[spongyfungy]

[NaS]

okay Lebron is faster than a 4.7 40 cuz u run a 4.8 40 and I am not quarter as fast sprinting down the court as he is... well maybe cuz im lazy and out of shape now ...

but yeah a 4.7? no way in hell. 4.7's are good wideouts, GREAT receivers like Lebron (cuz **** that man could make NFL cuz he starred in Cleveland HS football apparentely, correct me if im wrong) will run 4.3s

[Spriggan]

Originally posted by remy23!


I was watching the Falcons-Ravens game and the announcer said some guy ran a 4.15. I'm not kidding. But yeah, it's all insane stuff.

i would not be surprised in the least if michael vick can run a 40 at that speed.

he's an absolute blur. he's probably the only player i've ever seen that runs so fast on the football field he literally makes everyone else look like they're moving in slow-mo.

does anyone know what his official 40 time is?

[kflo]

Originally posted by remy23!
Even though the 100 and 200 are total sprints, the runners lose speed in the course of the race. In the 100, when the runners are in the "crouch," they have maximum speed and they "hold" this speed for a certain distance. But about 3/4 of the way into the race, the runners slow down. Thus the runner who "holds" his top speed the best wins the race.

Michael Johnson's race was insane, considering he claimed he stumbled out of the blocks and was not happy with his running start. But what MJ did goes against logic.

i'd say the average speed though is faster than the first 40 speed. it takes a little while to get into full speed, and they don't even get to top speed in the first 40.