View Poll Results: Are Pistons the world champions if
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Yes, they won the NBA playoffs
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No, they finish the 2nd place at Mac Cups
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08-13-2004, 11:31 AM
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#31 (permalink)
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Dr. Hibbert
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Originally posted by <b>Ravnos</b>!
Why? To allow for more post scoring? Is more post scoring inherently better than less post scoring?
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Because it makes it easier for Euro teams to defend since American bigs can't load up on the box. It's the reason many Euro players become ineffective in the NBA on the post, because they like facing up and have no back to the basket game to speak of.
The trapezoid was created to help international teams against American teams. If the rules were played the way they were created, our post game would rule and foul out most of your guys.
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08-13-2004, 11:36 AM
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#32 (permalink)
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Originally posted by <b>Hong Kong Fooey</b>!
Because it makes it easier for Euro teams to defend since American bigs can't load up on the box. It's the reason many Euro players become ineffective in the NBA on the post, because they like facing up and have no back to the basket game to speak of.
The trapezoid was created to help international teams against American teams. If the rules were played the way they were created, our post game would rule and foul out most of your guys.
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First of all, I'm American and the Europeans aren't "my guys." I was just wondering why you think the game should be played a certain way. It seems that the reason is so that American players get the advantage, instead of Europeans.
Also, was the trapezoid really created with the specific intention of helping international teams against Americans? Not saying I don't believe you, but it doesn't seem like a very good reason, because the Europeans play each other far more often than they play Americans. A link about the trapezoid would be nice.
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08-13-2004, 12:51 PM
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#33 (permalink)
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Originally posted by <b>Ravnos</b>!
First of all, I'm American and the Europeans aren't "my guys." I was just wondering why you think the game should be played a certain way. It seems that the reason is so that American players get the advantage, instead of Europeans.
Also, was the trapezoid really created with the specific intention of helping international teams against Americans? Not saying I don't believe you, but it doesn't seem like a very good reason, because the Europeans play each other far more often than they play Americans. A link about the trapezoid would be nice.
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The trapezoid was clearly to help international players, a place where a post-game isn't as widely used as it is for American play. I think it's stupid, it basically says hey Duncan, yea you have a post game but, you can't use it. I'm not sure if it was in use when Shaq was playing, but it wouldn't have effected him all that much, because Shaq can back some guy down and catch the ball in like 1 second... But for a guy like Duncan, who needs time, it kinda sucks. That goes for any other post player, like Amare, Boozer, and others...
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08-13-2004, 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by <b>Hong Kong Fooey</b>!
The trapezoid was created to help international teams against American teams.
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I hope you're jocking
And why the world must play with the NBA rules if the 99% of the other leagues play with the FIBA rules ?
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08-13-2004, 12:56 PM
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The More You Know
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what came first the NBA or FIBA?
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08-13-2004, 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by <b>SacKings384</b>!
The trapezoid was clearly to help international players, a place where a post-game isn't as widely used as it is for American play. I think it's stupid, it basically says hey Duncan, yea you have a post game but, you can't use it. I'm not sure if it was in use when Shaq was playing, but it wouldn't have effected him all that much, because Shaq can back some guy down and catch the ball in like 1 second... But for a guy like Duncan, who needs time, it kinda sucks. That goes for any other post player, like Amare, Boozer, and others...
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Despite your insistence upon why the trapezoid is used, I'd still like some kind of link that would support your position. And again, don't the Europeans play other Europeans a lot more than they play Americans? It doesn't make sense to make a trapezoid lane just for those few times they play Americans.
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08-13-2004, 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by <b>sboydell</b>!
what came first the NBA or FIBA?
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What came first doesn't matter. What does matter is with what rules the majority of the world plays. It is a world competition isn't it? If a European team were to play an NBA exhibition game against an NBA team, then it would make sense to use NBA rules. But Olympic basketball has nothing to do with the NBA.
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08-13-2004, 01:48 PM
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Of course the Pistons are the world champs, in club basketball. The NBA is by far the superior club basketball league in the world. The best players in the world play in the NBA, with few exceptions. Much like the best club league in hocky is the NHL, and the best club league in baseball is MLB. In soccer, however, there isn't one uber club league, so the English/Spanish/German/Italian champ really can't call themselves world champs.
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08-13-2004, 01:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by <b>Ravnos</b>!
What came first doesn't matter. What does matter is with what rules the majority of the world plays. It is a world competition isn't it? If a European team were to play an NBA exhibition game against an NBA team, then it would make sense to use NBA rules. But Olympic basketball has nothing to do with the NBA.
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I was asking a question not making a statement but thanks for not answering it
I agree with you
I was just wondering when FIBA was created
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08-13-2004, 02:11 PM
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NBA Champions should play in the Olympics
This is just one more reason why the USA should send the NBA Champions to the Olympics.
The Pistons would be destroying the international competition that the "Dream Team" is struggling against... and it does not matter what rules are used or the shape of the lane.
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08-13-2004, 10:10 PM
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