[DaUnbreakableKinG]

Originally posted by Azamad Bagatov!


I mean this poll only confirms how "weird" this country is.

Weird or not, this is the best country in the whole WORLD. Best at everything. (maybe not football(soccer) ) but at everything else.

Also add me to your TD club.

[Ron Mexico]

Originally posted by burnet!
they also created this site.

[guilherme.rcf]

The NBA champion is the nba champion. nothing else.

You guys think that the NBA champions are unbeatble. But you forget that the Pistons have lost more than 25 games in the season.

Three days ago if somebody had said to you that Puerto Rico could beat the USA team you would have laugh at him.

Anything can happens in a game.

[JazzMan]

People are arguing 2 different things here.

Yes, Detroit are PROBABLY the best club team in the world right now. Feel free to call them the best CLUB team in the world. But that is not the same thing as World Champions.

Most of us Europeans are not debating that Detroit are probably the best club team in the world. We are simply arguing that you cannot be OFFICAL World Champions without some sort of World Competition being played.

The NATIONAL Basketball association is only open to teams from America and Toronto. Detroit have proved that they are the best of those teams. They can prove nothing more because they don't play against anyone else.

What if the Euroleague continues to get better, and (unlikely I know) actually becomes better than the NBA. WOuld you still call your National champions "World CHampions"?

[Nate505]

Originally posted by italianBBlover!


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Fair enough. I disagree. I would agree if the best Russian/Italian/Argentine/Puerto Rican players played in those leagues, but they don't. They play in the NBA.

[Nate505]

Originally posted by JazzMan!
What if the Euroleague continues to get better, and (unlikely I know) actually becomes better than the NBA. WOuld you still call your National champions "World CHampions"?

No. Then it would be like soccer, where there are multiple leagues of roughly the same quality. But the only way for that to happen is for the best Euro players to stay there and play, or for them to have enough money to lure the best players of any nationality over to those leagues.

On that same note, if the ABA still existed and got better players I wouldn't call the NBA champ the world champs.

[Nate505]

Originally posted by guilherme.rcf!
The NBA champion is the nba champion. nothing else.

You guys think that the NBA champions are unbeatble. But you forget that the Pistons have lost more than 25 games in the season.

Yeah, to NBA teams. Not to teams that couldn't carry an NBA team's jockstrap.

BTW, has any Euro league player (or international player in general) ever refused to go to the NBA when they got drafted by an NBA team? If they haven't (and I can't think of one at this moment), why not?

Three days ago if somebody had said to you that Puerto Rico could beat the USA team you would have laugh at him.

Anything can happens in a game.

3 days ago? Who would have laughed? Especially to the team that got thumped by Italy.....this USA team is an absolute disgrace to the word team (so far anyway). There is no team here, just a bunch of egos and guys who couldn't hit a jump shot if their life depended on it.

[el_Diablo]

BTW, has any Euro league player (or international player in general) ever refused to go to the NBA when they got drafted by an NBA team? If they haven't (and I can't think of one at this moment), why not?

bodiroga...

[Nate505]

Originally posted by el_Diablo!


bodiroga...

Thanks. Have heard the name before (probably because he played on the same team Raul Lopez did in Europe). He is, however, the exception to the rule....

[Torim]

The European Soccer comparison is kind of iffy since probably most of the Italians/English/Spanish think that their league is the best in the world aswell, yet a team from Portugal won the Championsleague (facing a team from France).

Sure they sold all of their top players and their coach by now, but Soccer like Basketball is a team game and therefore pure individual talent is not as important as how well you play together.
And nobody doubts that the best talent plays in the NBA.

[Scipio]

Originally posted by Nate505!

Detroit is not a national champ (heck, Detroit hasn't played the winner of the NBDL, so how can they even be the national champ if we use some of the logic around here). They are the NBA champ. The NBA is by a wide margin the best league in the world. Hence they are the world champ.

Nate, you and non-US members will never see eye to eye on this matter. Here are the two facts I believe every non-US would agree:

1. NBA is the best league and has the best players all over the world and everyone wants to play there.

2. Pistons are the champions and most likely would win every Euro-team

But as long as there is no tournament arranged where the winners of the best leagues meet you cannot claim yourself a title "World Champion".

This is a more cultural difference. National teams and tournaments mean much more to europeans than to americans. I guess your country is so big, young and splitted into 50 states so you don't have the same passion for international competitions and value your professional leagues more which are the best in the world. Or i might be way off here...