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Old 11-22-2004, 07:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cardinal

Today he lead the Grizz vs the Best team in the league(spurs)
and they won...
wow what a game for Brian
do people still disagree that he is their best player
or at least he should start???
he and l.wright and bonzi really played clutch down the stretch
but wright's 5 footer was assited by cardinal
and most of bonzi's baskets were in one way or another set up by cardinal
he should definatly start
and while it is unfortunate the gasol and swift are out
im sure grizz will get some victories with cardinal on the floor
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Old 11-22-2004, 11:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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noone saw the game i guess
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, wouldn't be too notable for most players, but 13, 7 and 2 on 43% shooting with a mere 4 turnovers is pretty exiciting for Cardinal, I guess.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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umm ya, becasue any stats cardinal gets are just a minor plus
to what he actually adds to his team when he is on the floor
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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umm ya, becasue any stats cardinal gets are just a minor plus
to what he actually adds to his team when he is on the floor
What is it exactly that he adds when he is on the floor?
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Imo, Cardinal was the worst FA signing of the offseason.

I thought maybe i was wrong, seeing how it is Jerry West and all, but so far this season he's just further clogging up the pf spot. They already don't have enough time for Swift, who should be playing more. I was under the impression West was going to trade swift, and im guessing that's still what's going to happen. But i still don't understand the contract or the fit with the grizzlies.
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:28 AM   #7 (permalink)
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off the ball screens, regular screens, spacing, ball movement, hustle, team defense
just things like that
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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and other players don't provide those things?

you'd hope a 6'8 pf shooting 41% from the field would bring something to the table other then his "offensive prowess"
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:33 AM   #9 (permalink)
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not like Brian
i mean there are a couple of guys
but than they are usually not the shooters/scorers cardinal is

and of course there are guys that do both
but those are the 20 or so NBA players that are actually REALLY better than Cardinal
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Old 11-23-2004, 12:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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"and of course there are guys that do both
but those are the 20 or so NBA players that are actually REALLY better than Cardinal"

there is no way brian cardinal is a top20 player in the league.

Garnett
Duncan
Shaq
James
Wade
Kobe
Mcgrady
Nowitzki
Marbury
Francis
Allen
Ming
Iverson
Hill
Kirilenko
Stoudemire
Randolph
Artest
B.Wallace
R.Wallace
JO
Nash
Marion
Pierce
Jamison
Carter
Jefferson
Kidd
Carmelo
Rashard Lewis
Webber
Stojakovic
Arenas
Bibby
Gasol
Ginobili
Boozer
Odom
Billups
Miller
Redd

Those are just the guys off the top of my head who are definitely better then Cardinal. There is no question about it. Give me one name on that list that you'd trade for Cardinal straight up.
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yep i counted about 20 guys that are actually better than him on that list
plus there might be 2-3 that you didnt mention
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you can't be serious.

name 3 guys on that list you'd trade straight up for brian cardinal.
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iverson bibby carmelo
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iverson bibby carmelo
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so brian cardinal brings more to the table then allen iverson? if you were to put brian cardinal on the sixers he would carry them on his back?

and if you put him in carmelo's position (for godssake i dont even like carmelo) he'd be doing a better job?

or if you gave the kings cardinal in exchange for bibby they'd be an improved club?

this has got to be one of the worst arguments i have ever heard.
right next to your "kyle korver and lamond murray have been better sf's then Marion"..
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