[Cometsbiggestfan]

Originally posted by Hong Kong Fooey!
Houston with 72 points at home. Way to go guys.

I thought I was watching my Comets play.

[Mr. Predictable]

Originally posted by RP McMurphy!
I didn't want to jump the gun when Houston was 4-6, but now that they're 6-10 and seemingly getting worse and worse with every game, it's time for me to say "I told you so!"

Houston is one of the worst teams in the West and the amazing thing is, they keep on losing even though Jim Jackson is playing as well as anyone could expect him to play. With other disappointing teams like Memphis or Denver, there are at least role players who you can say, maybe they'll turn around if James Posey or Jason Williams or Nene or Andre Miller starts playing better. Houston doesn't haven't one role player who you can say that about and I think the level of play they've shown so far is actually a best-case scenario for them. Think about how bad they'll be once Jim Jackson tails off and Tracy McGrady starts complaining to the media on a daily basis.

I told you so!

I was seriously considering bumping your thread after tonights game. I know you normally like to back coaches but what is your defense of JVG in this case?

[Odomiles]

I think the blame has to be put on Van Gundy.

Do you remember how Yao Ming played in his first season? It seemed like he had a lot more freedom out there. I remember the first thing I noticed about him was his wonderful passing skills. The first time I watched him, he did the ol' Larry Bird two-handed backwards over-the-head pass to a guy cutting through the lane (I believe it was Steve Francis but it's hard to remember). He looked like a really special player back then.

I don't see the same player anymore. I haven't seen that player for a while. He's a lot less impressive now and doesn't seem to make the most of all his skills. I think, much like Tracy McGrady, his strengths aren't being properly utilized. It can't simply be a coincidence that his APG average has decreased, while his TOPG average has risen, since the hiring of Jeff Van Gundy. He doesn't allow Yao to be creative out there, and it's stopping him from growing as a player. Tracy McGrady looks very medicore out there. I know he has a lot of haters, but I think everyone has to agree that he is much better than this.

Bring in a coach who's willing to implement a system that suits his players, rather than himself.

[Odomiles]

Delete please.

[sweet_constipation]

I guess people must have missed my post on the 7th page:

Rankings:
PPG - 29th
Blocks - 23rd
Steals - 27th
Rebounding - 28th
Assists - 21st
FTA - 29th
FGA - 26th

FGA from game:
Det - 81
Hou - 65


You can also add to that list of stats Houston is ranked LAST when it comes to offensive rebounds.

[RP McMurphy]

Originally posted by Ming Bling!
I was seriously considering bumping your thread after tonights game. I know you normally like to back coaches but what is your defense of JVG in this case?

The reason people are blaming Van Gundy is pretty simple. When there are high expectations for a team, and they don't live up to them, the coach is the first guy to take the blame. I'm not on the fire JVG bandwagon because I expected the Rockets to be this bad all along.

I think the criticisms of Van Gundy are uninformed, because the Rockets don't have the personnel to play the way his critics want them to play. In order to be a good fastbreak team, you need to have big men who can grab rebounds and make quick outlet passes. The Rockets can't do that, because they are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. They can't afford to send their guards running the other way as soon as someone takes a shot, because if they did, they'd get outrebounded even worse than they are right now.

Offensively, it's not surprising that they're struggling and turning the ball over a lot, that's what happens when you have so little depth that the defense can collapse around your scorers. Same reason Richard Jefferson is leading the NBA in turnovers.

Van Gundy realizes that this team doesn't have much talent, and he knows the best way to win with a bad team is to limit the number of possessions and hope you get lucky. The people who blame Van Gundy don't understand just how awful this supporting cast is (and of course, that Tracy McGrady isn't as great as advertised) and I still say that once Van Gundy is gone, the Rockets will get even worse.

It's all Carroll Dawson's fault for giving out those horrible contracts to guys like Shandon Anderson, Maurice Taylor, and Moochie Norris. If he hadn't done that, this team's supporting cast wouldn't be so pathetic.

[Debt Collector]

Originally posted by sweet_constipation!
I guess people must have missed my post on the 7th page:




FGA from game:
Det - 81
Hou - 65


You can also add to that list of stats Houston is ranked LAST when it comes to offensive rebounds.

better reason for the FG differential

19 turnovers to detroits 8

some how van gundy's fault

[farhan007]

Originally posted by Whodinee!


better reason for the FG differential

19 turnovers to detroits 8

some how van gundy's fault

yes its his falut. Its called spacing!!! Something that isnt in JVG's vocab. IT seems as if he JVG WANTS Mcgrady to be doubled all the time with those silly and useless high picks.

[Mr. Predictable]

Originally posted by RP McMurphy!
The reason people are blaming Van Gundy is pretty simple. When there are high expectations for a team, and they don't live up to them, the coach is the first guy to take the blame. I'm not on the fire JVG bandwagon because I expected the Rockets to be this bad all along.

I think the criticisms of Van Gundy are uninformed, because the Rockets don't have the personnel to play the way his critics want them to play. In order to be a good fastbreak team, you need to have big men who can grab rebounds and make quick outlet passes. The Rockets can't do that, because they are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. They can't afford to send their guards running the other way as soon as someone takes a shot, because if they did, they'd get outrebounded even worse than they are right now.

Offensively, it's not surprising that they're struggling and turning the ball over a lot, that's what happens when you have so little depth that the defense can collapse around your scorers. Same reason Richard Jefferson is leading the NBA in turnovers.

Van Gundy realizes that this team doesn't have much talent, and he knows the best way to win with a bad team is to limit the number of possessions and hope you get lucky. The people who blame Van Gundy don't understand just how awful this supporting cast is (and of course, that Tracy McGrady isn't as great as advertised) and I still say that once Van Gundy is gone, the Rockets will get even worse.

It's all Carroll Dawson's fault for giving out those horrible contracts to guys like Shandon Anderson, Maurice Taylor, and Moochie Norris.

http://basketballboards.net/forum/sh...916&forumid=20

If he hadn't done that, this team's supporting cast wouldn't be so pathetic.

The supporting cast has JVG written all over it. Mo Taylor was coming off numbers of 17.5 and 6.5 in his 3rd year with the Clippers. Wonder what kind of a contract that would have fetched this offseaon.

[Jewelz]

Originally posted by RP McMurphy!


The reason people are blaming Van Gundy is pretty simple. When there are high expectations for a team, and they don't live up to them, the coach is the first guy to take the blame. I'm not on the fire JVG bandwagon because I expected the Rockets to be this bad all along.

I think the criticisms of Van Gundy are uninformed, because the Rockets don't have the personnel to play the way his critics want them to play. In order to be a good fastbreak team, you need to have big men who can grab rebounds and make quick outlet passes. The Rockets can't do that, because they are one of the worst rebounding teams in the league. They can't afford to send their guards running the other way as soon as someone takes a shot, because if they did, they'd get outrebounded even worse than they are right now.

Offensively, it's not surprising that they're struggling and turning the ball over a lot, that's what happens when you have so little depth that the defense can collapse around your scorers. Same reason Richard Jefferson is leading the NBA in turnovers.

Van Gundy realizes that this team doesn't have much talent, and he knows the best way to win with a bad team is to limit the number of possessions and hope you get lucky. The people who blame Van Gundy don't understand just how awful this supporting cast is (and of course, that Tracy McGrady isn't as great as advertised) and I still say that once Van Gundy is gone, the Rockets will get even worse.

It's all Carroll Dawson's fault for giving out those horrible contracts to guys like Shandon Anderson, Maurice Taylor, and Moochie Norris. If he hadn't done that, this team's supporting cast wouldn't be so pathetic.

Not only are you ignorant, but you are completely wrong. Try watching a Rocket game before judging why you think the team is bad

[kisstherim]

Originally posted by Odomiles!
I think the blame has to be put on Van Gundy.

Do you remember how Yao Ming played in his first season? It seemed like he had a lot more freedom out there. I remember the first thing I noticed about him was his wonderful passing skills. The first time I watched him, he did the ol' Larry Bird two-handed backwards over-the-head pass to a guy cutting through the lane (I believe it was Steve Francis but it's hard to remember). He looked like a really special player back then.

I don't see the same player anymore. I haven't seen that player for a while. He's a lot less impressive now and doesn't seem to make the most of all his skills. I think, much like Tracy McGrady, his strengths aren't being properly utilized. It can't simply be a coincidence that his APG average has decreased, while his TOPG average has risen, since the hiring of Jeff Van Gundy. He doesn't allow Yao to be creative out there, and it's stopping him from growing as a player.

i can't agree more