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Old 12-02-2004, 08:28 AM   #46 (permalink)
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You must not have watched Jordan, Barkley, and Malone at all
well, none of those guys got to the line at kobe's rate (11.75 fta/g) in the last 10 years, and only barkley and jordan ever got to the line at this rate at any point in their careers, each doing so for 1 season (barkley in '88, jordan in '87). malone's come close, and shaq's actually surpassed this pace (of course, partly by opponents design). no need for the rolleyes.
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:31 AM   #47 (permalink)
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well, none of those guys got to the line at kobe's rate (11.75 fta/g) in the last 10 years, and only barkley and jordan ever got to the line at this rate at any point in their careers, each doing so for 1 season (barkley in '88, jordan in '87). malone's come close, and shaq's actually surpassed this pace (of course, partly by opponents design). no need for the rolleyes.
Freethrow rate can be a misleading for a player's ability to get to the hoop.

Paul Pierce, Kobe were looking for contacts so they can shoot freethrows.

Carter in his 2nd year, Jordan in his prime were looking to finish plays in the air, but that doesnt mean they were catiously looking for fouls.

If I have the athleticisms of Carter or Jordan, I look to jump over peple first before I wanted to use my shoulders or body to make contact with players to display ugly finishes.
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Freethrow rate can be a misleading for a player's ability to get to the hoop.

Paul Pierce, Kobe were looking for contacts so they can shoot freethrows.

Carter in his 2nd year, Jordan in his prime were looking to finish plays in the air, but that doesnt mean they were catiously looking for fouls.

If I have the athleticisms of Carter or Jordan, I look to jump over peple first before I wanted to use my shoulders or body to make contact with players to display ugly finishes.
Next time you watch LA play, you'll see him get to the basket and get fouled just as much as the stat indicates. Come on now!
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Old 12-02-2004, 08:39 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Oooooooooh 33, he bust your chomps!
How? I wasn't wrong....Barkley and MJ have done this before
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Next time you watch LA play, you'll see him get to the basket and get fouled just as much as the stat indicates. Come on now!
And go get some tapes of Jordan and Carter in his second year. Both were just overjumping guys with explosiveness where defenders didnt even have a chances to make fouls.

But Jordan was still way better than Carter interms of look for fouls.

But Jordan and Carter would finish plays in the air, while Kobe and Pierce wouldnt after they draw some fouls.

It's all about airness.
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carter's career high is 6.7 fta/g.
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carter's career high is 6.7 fta/g.
Like I said, how many countless jumpovers Carter had in second year where defenders where helpeless to foul?

Dont LMAO!
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How? I wasn't wrong....Barkley and MJ have done this before
You jive siesed it dou!
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Like I said, how many countless jumpovers Carter had in second year where defenders where helpeless to foul?

Dont LMAO!
So Vince could average 12 per game like Kobe, if he wasn't jumping over defenders? LORD HAVE MERCY
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You jive siesed it dou!
That mey be how you took it, but all I was saying is that he ain't doing something we haven't seen before.
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