[ian]

Originally Posted by RP McMurphy

I used to have some patience with this guy, but this year was the last straw. He's a bust.

I'm guessing that over the next few years, his remaining supporters will realize, one-by-one, that it's never going to happen. Three years from now there will still be a few fans saying "He's still only 26."

The year where he's been plagued by injuries and a lack of playing time was the last straw? I'm having trouble following that thinking. He didn't bring Antawn Jamison in, nor did he wish for injuries

[RP McMurphy]

Originally Posted by ian

The year where he's been plagued by injuries and a lack of playing time was the last straw? I'm having trouble following that thinking.

Yes. Not only is he inconsistent as hell, now he's injury-prone and hasn't been able to find a role coming off the bench. I think those are legitimate reasons to consider a #1 pick a bust. If I can't call someone a bust until they've had a chance to take 20 shots a game then maybe it's also too early to call Carlos Rogers a bust even though he's been out of the league for three years.

Originally Posted by Shanghai Kid

He's a bust as a #1 pick, yeah, but it doesn't mean he can't be a good player. I think he'll be a 14/9 type of player. Not a great player, but certainly can be a nice piece on a good team.

I guess he could average 14 points and 9 rebounds if you gave him 36+ minutes per game and a ton of touches, but why would you want to give that big of a role to such a mediocre player?

[Bron_Melo_ROY]

Kwame Brown is a good post defender and a good rebounder. He could be the ultimate garbage man as someone mentioned before b/c Hughes and Arenas do take a lot of shots but they are also very willing to feed the ball into the post. Kwame does need a change of scenery however. I think he needs to get out of Washington and get consistent minutes. He is a bust b/c he was picked 1st overall and has not shown anything yet. He is injury prone but the Washington training staff is just horrible.

[7thwatch]

Its been time for him to break out for, oh, say, the last few years. I don't have much confidence he'll do anything more than put a decent string of games together before returning to form.

[MemphisX]

So if a HSer is not killing right off the bat then he is a bust? Kwame, IMO, is a victim of being in a draft filled with HS big men drafted by teams who had/have no clue how to properly develop them.

[bigbabyjesus]

Originally Posted by RP McMurphy

Yes. Not only is he inconsistent as hell, now he's injury-prone and hasn't been able to find a role coming off the bench. I think those are legitimate reasons to consider a #1 pick a bust. If I can't call someone a bust until they've had a chance to take 20 shots a game then maybe it's also too early to call Carlos Rogers a bust even though he's been out of the league for three years.

Its hard to put up consistent numbers when you have 3 scorers who are definetly not shy in putting up a lot of shots. He's actually done a decent job the last 5-6 games coming off the bench, playing good defense and grabbing rebounds. I don't really see how you can call him injury prone now either. This is his first season missing any significant time with an injury, and it happened to be a freak injury too.

[Pan Mengtu]

If Kwame Brown needs constant touches to be an effective player, then he's not really that good to begin with. Brendan Haywood is not a very talented player, but he fit himself into the system and grabs boards when he can, scores when he can, and has had a nice season (for him) this year. Why can't Kwame Brown even do that? I don't want a player who sucks unless he is the center of offense.

[RP McMurphy]

Originally Posted by MemphisX

So if a HSer is not killing right off the bat then he is a bust? Kwame, IMO, is a victim of being in a draft filled with HS big men drafted by teams who had/have no clue how to properly develop them.

So when does it stop being "right off the bat" in your opinion? Last year you called me out when I said Jonathan Bender is a bust as well, so you must think Kwame has at least one more year of it being "basically his rookie year."

[Debt Collector]

if anything at least teams will scout him more and he'll get 50 million at least.

[compsciguy78]

He's coming to the Lakers next year *****es!!! We need a big athletic guy down low to gobble up rebounds and listen to Kobe!

[ii9ce]

Originally Posted by underhill_101

it kwame does start to break out all i can say is its about time

second that