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07-15-2005, 11:14 PM
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Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
I got this from the pacers board..."pacerfan23"
but Indy thinking about Ron playing PF in the summer league; and are thinking about using him at power forward during the regular season....not starting at power foward, but using him at that position in situations
a lineup of J.O., Artest, Jackson, Jones/Granger, and Tinsely
now, I like the idea...i mean if Marion can power forward out west for a whole season, why can't Artest..who's bigger and stronger...play in it spot minutes?
the only drawback I see is rebounding....Jeff Foster is one hellava rebounder and Artest isn't...but, this would be Indy's best offensively lineup, and Indy is known to go through offensive droughts....
so do you like the idea or do you think its plain stupid
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07-15-2005, 11:16 PM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
bad idea, putting one of the best perim defenders in the league on the inside so he can show that he's not a great shotblocker? yah......sign me up!
artest can guard PF's one on one, he's strong enough atleast. but overall its a waste, u lose the great mismatch on the other end and take away one of ur best perimeter defenders.
also to be noted, marion is moving back to SF(NY trade)
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07-15-2005, 11:16 PM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
Not a good idea. Playing him sparingly at that position might work, but I don't think that's going to work starting him there and playing him big minutes there.
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07-15-2005, 11:18 PM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
the interesting point to me is whether it would work better with fred jones or granger in the game.
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07-15-2005, 11:20 PM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
i love the idea.... for my team lol duncan on artest i think it can happen 
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07-15-2005, 11:21 PM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
Putting the defensive player of the year at a positon where his defense becomes average at best is a bad idea. He is a lockdown perimeter defender. That's like moving Steve Nash off the ball and putting him the post.
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07-15-2005, 11:27 PM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
you guys are focusing on his defense and not enough on his offense...
right now, his mismatch is to take permimeter players on the block and punish them...moving him to PF (in spot minutes) he can take big men out to the perimeter which almost as big of a mismatch...and this would be Indy's best offensive lineup
J.O. will have room to work since they aren't play 4 on 5 offensively...
I wouldn't want Artest starting at PF....but in spot duty I like the idea
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07-16-2005, 06:37 AM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
The should just have him at SG.
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07-16-2005, 07:13 AM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
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Originally Posted by tone wone
you guys are focusing on his defense and not enough on his offense...
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Which makes sense, when we're talking about the 2004 Defensive Player of the Year.
Also, Ron Artest isn't a good enough rebounder to play power forward. The Pacers are already an average rebounding team at best. If we bench Jeff Foster to move Artest to the power forward position, we'd be worse off on the boards than the Raptors.
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07-16-2005, 07:33 AM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
only for limited minutes otherwise theyll get out rebounded like crazy
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07-16-2005, 08:12 AM
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Re: Artest a power foward; good or bad idea?
This is a bad idea. Artest is built to be a post player, I think it's just asking him to do to much. I would leave him at SG or SF and let him shut down someone instead of getting beat to hell in the post.
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