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01-15-2006, 12:59 PM
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Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
Okay, so I've been in the T-Wolves forum, and I put a little theory out there...however, everybody I've talked to so far in there has straight up told me I'm way off base, which definitely could be true. That's why I kinda wanted to open this thread to get your opinions on this, because if I'm talking complete trash, I should probably stop. Ok, here goes.
I said that Kevin Garnett needs to be more aggressive with the current team he has. I think Garnett should shoot fewer fadeaway jumpers (still shoot them because he has them dialed) because he can get better shots for himself with his ballhandling and quickness. He needs to be more assertive and really dominate games more than he does, I mean, he needs to light guys like Michael Sweetney and Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm up for 30 when he plays them, really take control when he's clearly got an inferior defender. He needs to be shooting 20 times a game when he's currently at a 55% clip. I also said Duncan is a cut above Garnett because of the impact he brings to the floor, which overshadows Kevin's, and that if Garnett really asserted himself he could be on TD level.
That's the basis of what I was saying. Two T-Wolves fans laughed at me and said that was ridiculous, and that they didn't want to waste their time explaining how this is wrong to me. Well, I was just wanting your comments, because if this is just way out there, then I'll know that I should stop saying it. Thanks guys.
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01-15-2006, 03:17 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
His unselfishness is his greatest weakness. He just needs to hog the ball a bit more.
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01-15-2006, 03:50 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
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Originally Posted by P-Dub34
Okay, so I've been in the T-Wolves forum, and I put a little theory out there...however, everybody I've talked to so far in there has straight up told me I'm way off base, which definitely could be true. That's why I kinda wanted to open this thread to get your opinions on this, because if I'm talking complete trash, I should probably stop. Ok, here goes.
I said that Kevin Garnett needs to be more aggressive with the current team he has. I think Garnett should shoot fewer fadeaway jumpers (still shoot them because he has them dialed) because he can get better shots for himself with his ballhandling and quickness. He needs to be more assertive and really dominate games more than he does, I mean, he needs to light guys like Michael Sweetney and Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm up for 30 when he plays them, really take control when he's clearly got an inferior defender. He needs to be shooting 20 times a game when he's currently at a 55% clip. I also said Duncan is a cut above Garnett because of the impact he brings to the floor, which overshadows Kevin's, and that if Garnett really asserted himself he could be on TD level.
That's the basis of what I was saying. Two T-Wolves fans laughed at me and said that was ridiculous, and that they didn't want to waste their time explaining how this is wrong to me. Well, I was just wanting your comments, because if this is just way out there, then I'll know that I should stop saying it. Thanks guys.
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Good post, but the man has played in the league for 9 or so years now. Its going to be hard for him to just change his frame of mind over night
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01-15-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
I was thinking the same thing.
Garnett is to good to be passing the ball up to guys like Jaric, Madsen, Olwocandi, Hassel.
He should trying to do more points wise.
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01-15-2006, 05:21 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
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Originally Posted by P-Dub34
Okay, so I've been in the T-Wolves forum, and I put a little theory out there...however, everybody I've talked to so far in there has straight up told me I'm way off base, which definitely could be true. That's why I kinda wanted to open this thread to get your opinions on this, because if I'm talking complete trash, I should probably stop. Ok, here goes.
I said that Kevin Garnett needs to be more aggressive with the current team he has. I think Garnett should shoot fewer fadeaway jumpers (still shoot them because he has them dialed) because he can get better shots for himself with his ballhandling and quickness. He needs to be more assertive and really dominate games more than he does, I mean, he needs to light guys like Michael Sweetney and Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm up for 30 when he plays them, really take control when he's clearly got an inferior defender. He needs to be shooting 20 times a game when he's currently at a 55% clip. I also said Duncan is a cut above Garnett because of the impact he brings to the floor, which overshadows Kevin's, and that if Garnett really asserted himself he could be on TD level.
That's the basis of what I was saying. Two T-Wolves fans laughed at me and said that was ridiculous, and that they didn't want to waste their time explaining how this is wrong to me. Well, I was just wanting your comments, because if this is just way out there, then I'll know that I should stop saying it. Thanks guys.
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You just need to talk to me...KG is my favorite player, but I agree with you completely. I like the fact that KG has the ability to put up a triple double, and is a willing enough passer to do so, but I would rather see him doing that when he has a supporting cast like Duncan has than with the team McHale has put together for this season. It was cool two years ago when we had Spree and Sam playing well, because the team was winning. Not the case now. Being more agressive in the post would certainly win a few games, and for a team that will be fighting for a playoff spot come the end of the season, that is huge.
I agree with Hbwoy that it will be hard for KG to change the way he plays 9 seasons in, and thus he probably won't, but that doesn't change the fact that I think the team would be more successful if he did. WTChan is on point when he says that KG's unselfishness is his greatest weakness. I will say though that KG is not the main problem. You would think that by this point in KG's career, Kevin McHale would have figured out what kind of players are needed around Garnett to maximize his potential. Unfortunately, you'd also be wrong.
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01-15-2006, 08:15 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
whatever. He's not scorer...never has been, never will be.
btw, have you SEEN Duncan this year???
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01-15-2006, 08:27 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
..............story of his career
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01-15-2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
Kevin Garnett needs to be more agressive? Naw. That's like saying Michael Olowokandi needs to not shoot many 3 pointers.
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01-15-2006, 08:59 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
KG has a point guard's mentality, he is at his best by drawing attention to himself and passing out to the open man. Unfortunately he only has Wally. But he does need to be more agressive an take over games during the last 2 mins but it will never happen. It's just not his game. But with the league's highest FG percentage he should really consider ball hogging during the crucial moments of the game.
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01-15-2006, 09:12 PM
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Re: Kevin Garnett - More Aggressive?
I understand what you're saying and agree to a certain extent. Problem is that KG has never been a marquee scorer. He doesn't quite have the ability to drop 30 every night, that's not his game. He plays a very balanced and very consistent type of game. Rarely will you see him go cold for long stretches of a game, or games. And he'll never go cold for weeks like some other superstars tend to do every now and then. IMO he's the most consistent superstar in the league on both ends of the floor.
All that said, as far as a lack of aggressiveness from KG affecting the Twolves' record is concern, the Twolves are just straight garbage outside of KG, nothing more. AI, Duncan, LeBron, Shaq, Kobe, etc. all have supporting casts superior to KG's. You could argue AI and Kobe's casts are close to as bad, but I still say KG has the worst supporting cast of any of the top 10 superstars in the league. Blame Twolves FO, not KG's aggressiveness.
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01-16-2006, 04:01 PM
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