[Pioneer10]

Originally Posted by The OUTLAW

LeBron's junior year was the only year that his team didn't win the State Championship and his senior year that team played the best teams in the country and the only loss was a game that LeBron was suspended.

The FT shooting was Duncan like as well in high school. He's drastically improved his jumpshot last year but this year needs to be the FT shooting year.

He's just been a bad from teh FT line the last 2 months

[The OUTLAW]

Originally Posted by Pioneer10

The FT shooting was Duncan like as well in high school. He's drastically improved his jumpshot last year but this year needs to be the FT shooting year.

He's just been a bad from teh FT line the last 2 months

He has no pattern or rhythm to his free throw shooting. Half the time it's like he just walks up and takes the shot without even thinking about it. Free throw shooting is all about repetition and he really have no set pattern to the way he shoots them.

[IbizaXL]

geez, i think im gonna create a Wade thread, just to see how it works out LOL

[The OUTLAW]

It'd likely work out pretty well. I don't think Wade has nearly the volume of haters as LeBron seems to. Heck LeBron still has people blaming him for the Olympic basketball team only winning Bronze even though he barely even played.

[IbizaXL]

Originally Posted by The OUTLAW

It'd likely work out pretty well. I don't think Wade has nearly the volume of haters as LeBron seems to. Heck LeBron still has people blaming him for the Olympic basketball team only winning Bronze even though he barely even played.

im gonna do it......oh s*** i will do it...!! lol

[Heated]

Originally Posted by shobe42

if I was Lebron and my nickname was "King James" I'd have an ego too... a matter of fact I dont have any of that **** and I still have an ego...

obviously.

[DQ for 3]

Originally Posted by naibsel

well...... now uve forced me to go look at the boxscores

4 years in highschool

freshman
team record 27-0
stats 18-6-4 3stls 2blocks on 52% fg% 80%ft%

sophmore season
team record 26-1
stats 25-7-6 (lol he was a better nba sophmore) 4stls 2blocks 58-39-71 shooting

junior season
team record 23-4
stats 28-9-6 on 57-34-60 shooting (terrible ft that year)

senior season
team record 25-1
stats 30-10-5 on 56-38-68 shooting


so..... i know u met him and everything so i should probably bow or look at my shoes but 101 wins, 6 losses. now im no mathematician but me thinks my statement before was probably not too far off when i said he didn't get that many chances

Please explain to me how those stats show me that he didnt have close games?

And no, I didn't meet him, I watched him play. He probably didn't have a ton of chances like he has in his pro career, but that doesn't make the quote in my sig, which came directly from your team's homepage, cavs.com, from being completely true.

[The OUTLAW]

Originally Posted by Shaq_Diesel

Please explain to me how those stats show me that he didnt have close games?

And no, I didn't meet him, I watched him play. He probably didn't have a ton of chances like he has in his pro career, but that doesn't make the quote in my sig, which came directly from your team's homepage, cavs.com, from being completely true.

I don't think that he's had a ton of chances as a pro. He has had several lately, but the Cavs really don't play that many close games nor have they on previous years.

[naibsel]

Originally Posted by Shaq_Diesel

Please explain to me how those stats show me that he didnt have close games?

And no, I didn't meet him, I watched him play. He probably didn't have a ton of chances like he has in his pro career, but that doesn't make the quote in my sig, which came directly from your team's homepage, cavs.com, from being completely true.

i never said that he didn't have close games, i dont see how he can be considered a good clutch player with a 101-6 record if he did have close ones. my exact words were "come from behind game winners"

they aren't my team, if u gave a hobo a sandwich he could engineer a better lineup. i just defend lebron. my team is the pistons, and several others tickle my fancy, not the cavs

[DJRaz]

the stat about lebron's last-second shots somehow deciding how clutch he is is flawed. stats are fun but they can be very misleading when taken out of context.

i can personally recall no less than 10 games where lebron has completely taken over the game in the 4th. and i've read about more. like against the suns, where lebron almost singlehandedly out-played the highest powered offense in the west. this is not the first time, in fact it's not even that rare anymore. i'm sure there's more than 10. you don't need to take the last second shot if you put the knockout on their azz with 7 minutes to go.

like someone else said, he just put up a game only done in the 2 last decades by bird, jordan, and hakeem. and many people barely noticed. maybe the kids on this board can look up those names to check yearly stats against their favorite wing man of the moment.

and kobe verse lebron argument is good entertainment, especially since kobe keeps getting banged up whenever they play the cavs.

but the relevant measurement i see that situation is if you look at their career/talent progress as a percentage:

kobe > 90% of all that he'll be
lebron < 50% of all that he'll be

that makes it amazing to witness kobe now, and exciting to watch what lebron can become. and even more fun to watch the haters squirrel around as james bounces to the hall of fame.