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Originally Posted by The OUTLAW

I think you guys might need to move. I mean what do you expect you live up in Northern Ohio, of course your going to hear some pro LeBron chatter. Heck (the Ex) Caron_Butler has said at one time or another he hated OSU, and the Browns as well. Dude, your in the wrong part of the country thats why.

Remove the one time or another....Just keep it simple: I DO hate Ohio St, the Browns and Cavs. I really have no problem with the Indians, but I'm not a fan of them either.

Originally Posted by The OUTLAW

I do understand keeping LeBron fans grounded, but you guys need to be grounded in some reality as well. Fact is that at no time that LeBron has been in the NBA has Caron Butler been a better player than him. LeBron in his very first game in the league was better than Caron Butler, so that argument was false on it's face. I don't mind people saying that LeBron has flaws because he clearly does, it's the blatent hating about things that are often either blown out of proportion or are just factually inaccurate that I have a problem with.

Can you find a non-sarcastic post where I said Caron Butler was better than LeBron James? I know I can be a homer, but I'm atleast realistic about things.

[The OUTLAW]

I've never actually seen you post that Caron was better than LeBron. But there was some mention earlier in this thread that it had been done (not necessarily by you, but then I really don't know).

As I was saying however, you guys are just in the wrong part of the country. We Clevelanders do love our teams and their players. LOL

[Pioneer10]

Originally Posted by Shaq_Diesel

...and for every example you give me, I'll give you a guy who didnt, and probably more........

I'm not saying he won't, but it's not a guarantee like you all want to think

Give me examples (not including injuries).
Kobe is a better now then when he was 21
Jo the same
Tmac the same
VC the same
Wade the same
Shaq the same
Nash the same
Billups the same
etc etc etc

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Originally Posted by Pioneer10

Give me examples (not including injuries).
Kobe is a better now then when he was 21
Jo the same
Tmac the same
VC the same
Wade the same
Shaq the same
Nash the same
Billups the same
etc etc etc

How about:
Kris Humphries
Reece Gaines
Troy Bell
Travis Outlaw
Ndudi Ebi
Dorell Wright
etc etc etc

just to name a few...we can keep playing this game

[duncan2k5]

this game sucks

[Wilmatic2]

Calm down big guy.

[GTA Addict]

Triple-double effort by LeBron against the Nets. He came through huge down the stretch, so since he's been getting a lot of flack for "choking", might as well bring it to people's attention when he plays well at the end.

LeBron had at least two crucial defensive plays in the final minutes: blocked a layup attempt by Kidd, then on a following possession Kidd stole the ball and had an open fastbreak opportunity but Bron chased him down and bothered Kidd's layup, which missed. Bron grabbed the rebound for his 7th career triple-double.

Right before that, he directed Pavlovic to the corner, Bron drove in the lane and kicked it out to Pavlovic for an open three. Then he sealed the game by going 4 of 4 from the line in the last 30 seconds, all swishes.

26/11/10. Great game by LeBron. He's only going to get better.

[SPMJ]

^ That performance had MVP written all over it. LeBron's quickly jumped to #2 on my MVP list and might even bump off Nash for #1 if he and the Cavs keep going like this. It's good to see him back to playing the best all round ball in the league.

[DJRaz]

trip dub for lbj tonight.
big freethrows in clutch time.
nice win over the nets.

3rd triple double of the season. 7th of career. 21.2 years old.
see? sometimes stats are fun.

[Pioneer10]

Originally Posted by Shaq_Diesel

How about:
Kris Humphries
Reece Gaines
Troy Bell
Travis Outlaw
Ndudi Ebi
Dorell Wright
etc etc etc

just to name a few...we can keep playing this game

These guy were never even starters in the NBA: they're games probably improved but but hard to notice when they were never good in the first place. Name a guy (outside of injuries) who was a star after a season or two in the league who didn't get better.