[The MAMBA]

I personally don't feel Charlie V will be superstar caliber...but he will be pretty good.

[adhir1]

to avg 9 a game for Charlie might be a stretch...especially seeing as he will be guarding 3's out on the perimeter, and to have a guy like Bosh on his team and our future center who i would hope can rebound the ball, charlie might be a 19-22 guy and grabing about 7-8 boards a night...but i think that whole front line of Bosh/Charlie/Futre C, is going to be a blocking machine....Bosh can easily block 2-3 a night same with Charlie as he hs shown a few games this season....

[TRON]

Originally posted by P-Dub34 !

Since nobody answered my original question, somebody please tell me why he'll ever be better than a prime Keith Van Horn (not a slam on Villy - prime KVH was a damn fine ballplayer, but he was no superstar). Will Charlie ever average 19/9/2?[/

he has the potential to average those numbers, but your guess is as good as mine.
The work ethic issues have come up this year, but for me it's more of a consistancy issue that many rookies deal with in thier first year. He has a 24/12 one day, then is nearly invisible the next.

I don't really see much KVH in Charlies game other than the fact that they are both big guys that can play the 3, and have that inside-out game. You can say the same about guys like Jamal Mashburn, Glen Robinson, Rasheed Wallace and Antwan Jamison.

Charlie IMO, seems quicker more athletic and creative than KVH, and has a quicker release and fancier post moves than Keith, whether he'll average Keiths career high's is still up for debate though.

I am pleased with Charlie since he has moved into the starting lineup and moved to the 3. This should be his postion in the league, and he has been consistent in the starting lineup. I think Charlie could be a great complimentary player, but I doubt he ever makes it to all-star status.

best case scenerio: smaller version of Rasheed Wallace
...........................Antwan Jamison with less rebounding

[HB]

I still stand by my superstar evaluation. He has the potential to be better than Bosh, its left to be seen if he has the determination and effort to do so.

[Crossword]

Well, his rookie stats are similar to Bosh's (12-5 to 11-7), so it's not out of the question. But he'll turn out to be a completely different kind of player for sure.

[rocketeer]

villanueva is nothing like keith van horn.

my comparison for him would be rasheed wallace. he's a big guy that can do a lot of different things(rebound, defend, score, shoot from the perimeter) and has superstar talent, but he's probably going to end up just as a very good complimentary player.