[Phenom Z28]

Originally Posted by NugzFan

playing with shaq helps. no matter how good you are.

While there's no logical argument against this statement, what garnered my respect for Wade was the way he played this season when Shaq was injured. He absolutely took over and proved to me that he wasn't just Shaq's pet like I used to think. I still find the Heat commentators and Wade fans annoying as sin, but Dwyane definately has my respect as a superstar now.

[EHL]

Originally Posted by kflo

and mobility. and effectiveness.

Yup, and overall impact and the actual amount of time he's on the court (30 mpg versus Wade's 39).

It's pretty clear Wade is the same player with or without Shaq.

[GoDWade]

Originally Posted by NugzFan

stop trying to read more into than it is. shaq makes players better. its not hard to understand.

what's hard to understand is your insistence in emphasizing Wade's greatness in relation to Shaq, while Wade has proven over and over again that he is a great player in his own right


like I said, play with good/great players help no matter who you are, but there is no need to add an asterik on players who play along side some. Some are justified, but in Wade's case, no.

[matt!]

Originally Posted by kflo

"for all the knocks about wade's long-range shot... here's some evidence to show how true it is. oh, and by the way, melo's long range shot is pretty crappy too." that's the extended version of the thread title.

Actually, the extended title should read:

For all the knocks about Wade's long-range shot, Carmelo is equally bad and never takes any crap for it.

[Chalie Boy]

Originally Posted by matt!

Three Point FG%:
Dwyane Wade
This Year: 15% (9/59)
Career: 24% (38/157)
Playoffs: 22% (4/18)

Carmelo Anthony
This Year: 23% (28/122)
Career: 28% (139/494)
Playoffs: 17% (2/12)

It shocked me when I looked it up.

I know that both of these players will improve this over the years(hopefully) but this is pretty sad guys, no matter how you look at it...

[neoxsupreme]

Long range shooting is overrated nowadays. He doesn't need it. If he does improve his 3 pt. shooting it just means he'll be a more complete player. The guy knows what his strengths are and he goes ahead and does them consistently and that's slashing and his mid-range game.

[Gilgamesh]

Shaq gives everybody better looks. His impact transcends beyond his stats.

Originally Posted by Lanteri

Wade also has Shaq to give him much better looks every night than Anthony sees.

[NugzFan]

Originally Posted by gio30584

your honestly shocked Melo shoots 3`s better than Wade?

wow...

im sorry man...but i had to LOL @ that

why? i knew melo isnt a great 3 pt shooter and i figured wade would be at least DECENT at it...didnt know he was HORRIBLE at them.

[NugzFan]

Originally Posted by ralaw

That may be true for journeymen type players such as Damon Jones, but with superstar level players (Kobe and Wade) that isn't really true. D. Wade is a top tier player with or without Shaq, the only thing Shaq provides for D. Wade is more spacing (on the wing) for him to do what he otherwise would already be doing.

im not saying shaq is the difference between wade being average and great. hes great without shaq but shaq just makes everyone a little better...makes everything a little easier. its not a bad thing.

[NugzFan]

Originally Posted by PHeNoM Z28

While there's no logical argument against this statement, what garnered my respect for Wade was the way he played this season when Shaq was injured. He absolutely took over and proved to me that he wasn't just Shaq's pet like I used to think. I still find the Heat commentators and Wade fans annoying as sin, but Dwyane definately has my respect as a superstar now.

agreed...wade = superstar. i was never implying any differently.