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Rockstone · 08-13-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuskid

Nene will be a top 15 big man and the Nuggets' second option on offense by the All Star break this year.

Did you really think about this before typing it?

Considering 60 big men will be starters on NBA Rosters, I have a hard time agreeing that Nene will be better than 3/4 of them.

I haven't seen any part of Nene's game that would lead me to believe he'll ever be an All-Star level player. Maybe I just haven't seen enough. I don't expect Varejao to be an All-Star either but I expect him to have a more positive impact on the floor than Nene.

taurus515th · 08-13-2006, 08:24 PM

I think a lot of people r underrated Nene because of an injury but like i said b4 I feel as of now Nene is the better player. I do not know if Anderson Varejao has been hurt ur wut, i really have only been looking at Bulls stuff during this season and last so i dont know but his stats decreased this year from his rookie year. Im not sure about wut u guys think sometimes but i think u should b getting better every season n most of ur stats not worse unless u get hurt. If he had an injury excuse me about wut im staying but his minutes, games played, FT% apg, spg, bpg, points per game all decreased. Nene n my opinion is better than Drew Gooden and if Anderson Varejao is not starting over him by now he is not better than Nene yet. I know he has only been n the league for 2 years but to me he will get better but as i keep saying Nene is the better player as 4 now.

I believe if Nene is given good minutes and is a starter who is atleast a 2nd option 4 scoring instead of 4th like he has been except 4 his rookie season, then i c him being better/even more explosive then him n this mix http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0JBqMiIsAQ just like everyone expects Amare Stoudemire to b much better/explosive after his injury.

The OUTLAW · 08-13-2006, 08:39 PM

In my opinion Nene has never done anything that should give you the impression that he'd be starting over Gooden either, so I don't know what kinda logic would make you look down on Varejao because he does not. Cavs fans will tell you that Varejao's shoulder injury during last years off season was a tremendous blow to the team. He came back to play better than he had the year before even if his stats don't appear to show that. Fact is stats really don't say what he does for the team, not to mention Coach Browns lack of interest in getting scoring out of the 4 spot makes pretty much all of our PF's score less than they could in a different situation. I don't know if Nene has improved since the last time I've seen him play but I know that the most incarnation of Varejao is better than what Nene had been.

taurus515th · 08-13-2006, 08:50 PM

Well we will all c this coming up season.

**Jamel Irief** · 08-14-2006, 05:49 AM

Stop calling him Andy you gringos!

Rafaelaraujotody · 08-14-2006, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Stop calling him Andy you gringos!

Whats wrong with that? You can't even say varejao so shut ut.. Anyway..
What pisses me off is the fact that Nene has not evolved.. he's the same player that has entered the NBA 4 years ago..

Varejao is just growing with no stop! I mean.. he's better than Splitter now.. I believe more effective than Nene.. second scoring option if Brazil's NT behind Leandro Barbosa..

Even thou Nene used to be my favorite player i will say Varejao now..

And YEAH.. i know Nene hasn't played in a while.. :curse:

¹²³ · 08-14-2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafaelaraujotody

Whats wrong with that? You can't even say varejao so shut ut..

I bet he can say Varejão. Jamel has his brazilians connections. :biggrin:

**bball2223** · 08-14-2006, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuristxen

Lit up Dirk today in Brazil's 1 point loss. Best player on Offense and Defense in the game...again. If Brazil does anything in the WC, Andy could win player of the tourny.

Brazil would have to win it for him to get player of the tourney.

**Yao Mania** · 08-14-2006, 08:42 AM

Well at this very moment its defintely Carribean Cool, but Nene's still a freakish athlete for this size and can still potentially break out. But Verejao's been surprisingly showing improvement in his game.

futuristxen · 08-14-2006, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bball2223

Brazil would have to win it for him to get player of the tourney.

Duh.

**Jamel Irief** · 08-14-2006, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafaelaraujotody

Whats wrong with that? You can't even say varejao so shut ut.. Anyway..
What pisses me off is the fact that Nene has not evolved.. he's the same player that has entered the NBA 4 years ago..

Varejao is just growing with no stop! I mean.. he's better than Splitter now.. I believe more effective than Nene.. second scoring option if Brazil's NT behind Leandro Barbosa..

Even thou Nene used to be my favorite player i will say Varejao now..

And YEAH.. i know Nene hasn't played in a while.. :curse:

I bet you I could, I bet you I could say Pantanal, havaianas, arioz and feijauda too... even though I can't spell them.

Wifey gets a kick of all the announcers trying to Varejao.

**RoyWilliams** · 08-15-2006, 10:47 AM

Heard Verejao hurt his foot today, anyone know how serious?

futuristxen · 08-15-2006, 10:56 AM

Hopefully it's not. I bet Drew Gooden is thinking about holding off on signing that contract now, ha. Squeeze a few more mill out of Ferry if Verejao is hurt again.

Rafaelaraujotody · 08-16-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

I bet you I could, I bet you I could say Pantanal, havaianas, arioz and feijauda too... even though I can't spell them.

Wifey gets a kick of all the announcers trying to Varejao.

Sorry dude.. didn't know you had brazilian connections.. lol

Anyway.. just did not see a problem with the Andy thing..

RoddneyThaRippa · 08-16-2006, 12:42 PM

This board has stooped to a new low: Varejao isn't even in the same league as Nene.

I wonder how much of you have actually watched Nene play - more than five games. I really do like Varejao and thought he was wonderful in the playoffs, but the two aren't even comparable. This question shouldn't ever have been asked.

I will be revisiting this thread periodically through the season, as Nene makes this thread look as dumb as the "Lebron won't amount to anything" topic. There isn't a GM in the league who would take Varejao over Nene. Not one.

08-13-2006, 08:24 PM	#32 (permalink)
taurus515th 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 1562	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality I think a lot of people r underrated Nene because of an injury but like i said b4 I feel as of now Nene is the better player. I do not know if Anderson Varejao has been hurt ur wut, i really have only been looking at Bulls stuff during this season and last so i dont know but his stats decreased this year from his rookie year. Im not sure about wut u guys think sometimes but i think u should b getting better every season n most of ur stats not worse unless u get hurt. If he had an injury excuse me about wut im staying but his minutes, games played, FT% apg, spg, bpg, points per game all decreased. Nene n my opinion is better than Drew Gooden and if Anderson Varejao is not starting over him by now he is not better than Nene yet. I know he has only been n the league for 2 years but to me he will get better but as i keep saying Nene is the better player as 4 now. I believe if Nene is given good minutes and is a starter who is atleast a 2nd option 4 scoring instead of 4th like he has been except 4 his rookie season, then i c him being better/even more explosive then him n this mix http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0JBqMiIsAQ just like everyone expects Amare Stoudemire to b much better/explosive after his injury.

08-13-2006, 08:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
The OUTLAW Star Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH Age: 51 Posts: 3,319 Rep Power: 173082	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality In my opinion Nene has never done anything that should give you the impression that he'd be starting over Gooden either, so I don't know what kinda logic would make you look down on Varejao because he does not. Cavs fans will tell you that Varejao's shoulder injury during last years off season was a tremendous blow to the team. He came back to play better than he had the year before even if his stats don't appear to show that. Fact is stats really don't say what he does for the team, not to mention Coach Browns lack of interest in getting scoring out of the 4 spot makes pretty much all of our PF's score less than they could in a different situation. I don't know if Nene has improved since the last time I've seen him play but I know that the most incarnation of Varejao is better than what Nene had been. __________________ One thing a non-conformist can't stand is another non-conformist who doesn't conform to the prevailing standards of non-conformity. Last edited by The OUTLAW; 08-13-2006 at 09:01 PM.

08-13-2006, 08:50 PM	#34 (permalink)
taurus515th 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 1562	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality Well we will all c this coming up season.

08-14-2006, 05:49 AM	#35 (permalink)
Jamel Irief KING OF THE INTERWEBZ! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Watching the Lakers Age: 96 Posts: 20,398 Rep Power: 14080269	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality Stop calling him Andy you gringos! __________________

08-14-2006, 08:42 AM	#39 (permalink)
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08-15-2006, 10:47 AM	#42 (permalink)
RoyWilliams -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bowling Green, OH Age: 29 Posts: 12,113 Rep Power: 8184229	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality Heard Verejao hurt his foot today, anyone know how serious?

08-15-2006, 10:56 AM	#43 (permalink)
futuristxen Our Sentence Is Up Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 40,250 Rep Power: 13467217	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality Hopefully it's not. I bet Drew Gooden is thinking about holding off on signing that contract now, ha. Squeeze a few more mill out of Ferry if Verejao is hurt again. __________________ My blog: Here

08-16-2006, 12:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
RoddneyThaRippa Star Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,155 Rep Power: 1690725	Re: Nene vs. Verejao: Perception vs. Reality This board has stooped to a new low: Varejao isn't even in the same league as Nene. I wonder how much of you have actually watched Nene play - more than five games. I really do like Varejao and thought he was wonderful in the playoffs, but the two aren't even comparable. This question shouldn't ever have been asked. I will be revisiting this thread periodically through the season, as Nene makes this thread look as dumb as the "Lebron won't amount to anything" topic. There isn't a GM in the league who would take Varejao over Nene. Not one.

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