[JuniorNoboa]

Originally Posted by Jizzy

Chris Bosh and TJ Ford are very overrated.

How could I forget the infamous Rasho Nesterovic! lol

Toronto 13-16 (11 Home Games, 18 Road Games)
New Jersey 11-18 (18 Home Games, 11 Road Games)

[Flash is the Future]

PG:Leandro Barbosa
SG:Larry Hughes
SF:Andrei Kirilenko
PF:Kenyon Martin
C:Zydrunas Ilgauskas

[Jizzy]

Originally Posted by JuniorNoboa

Toronto 13-16 (11 Home Games, 18 Road Games)
New Jersey 11-18 (18 Home Games, 11 Road Games)

Awesome! Still doesn't take away my opinion of Bosh, TJ and SLavo being overrated.

[ehmunro]

Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen

I am? Great input. Maybe you should check your stats buddy.

Gordon averages 19 PPG, and 43% from the field, and 36% from 3. I would expect those out of Jamal Crawford, and his numbers are extremely similar... but the day you rely on Jamal Crawford leading your team, you're in trouble. 43% from the field is not an impressive statistic.

Ben Gordon is a chucker, and doesn't do anything besides shoot the ball. He's not a good defender. He's a spark off the bench and until he can prove he's more than that, you'll be complaining about his minutes and the way he's used for many days.

Gordon averages 20.1 p/g on an aFG% of .490 which is average and PP/FGA number of 1.14, which is quite good for a primary scorer.

[LowOnMyPaper]

Kevin Garnett - He's not the lead your team type of guy. He's best suited to a 2nd option to a slashing wing or other quality low post big man.

Vince Carter - Comes up short in the clutch, relies heavily on his jumpshooting instead of his driving and finishing abililties.

I'll hold comments on Iverson until I see him play in Denver.

Rasheed Wallace - Prefer shooting threes rather than banging in the low post, where his game belongs.

LeBron James - Still one of the best players in the league, but not the best until he works on his perimeter shooting and on the more important half of the game, defense.

[BG7]

How is Ben Gordon overrated. All anyone does is talk about how one dimensional he is, and how overrated he is, yet no one talks about him in any good light at all. Yet he's carried his team to the playoffs 2 years now, and he's going to make it a 3rd.

And Ben Wallace an offensive liability? No, he is a good offensive rebounder, passer, and he can get the ball in the hole with some nifty little moves. However, he is a defensive liability.

Anyhow, just some guys off the top of my head.

Chris Bosh
Nenad Krstic
Andre Iguodala
Ben Wallace
Kirk Hinrich
Shaquille O'neal
Josh Smith
Tracy McGrady
Chris Paul
Andrei Kirilienko

[cima]

dwyane wade. i have no respect for a guy that flops and travels as much as he does.

[Sir Patchwork]

Originally Posted by Mebarak

How is Ben Gordon overrated. All anyone does is talk about how one dimensional he is, and how overrated he is, yet no one talks about him in any good light at all. Yet he's carried his team to the playoffs 2 years now, and he's going to make it a 3rd.

Answered your own question. Ben Gordon has not carried any Bulls team. He has been a huge part of the Bulls success, along with Hinrich and Deng, plus Skiles and their great depth. Several guys deserve a bunch of credit.

You are no better than the folks who give Kirk Hinrich credit for carrying the Bulls. That's how all the Bulls get overrated. You overrate Gordon, some overrate Hinrich, some give Wallace credit for carrying the Bulls.

The truth is that Skiles is too much of a general to let anyone but him carry that team. Every player on that team is just a piece of the success not. The team's overall success can be credited to literally 3-4 different guys equally.

[ehmunro]

Originally Posted by The 6ft Hurdle

Overrated stars:

Lebron James: people thought he would be worlds better than Melo. I still can't believe he won ROY as easily as he did. The guy might be all kinds of talented but he is just not a winner. The Michael Vick to Melo's Vince Young.

Let's see how the NBA's Vince Young performs when the games really matter, shall we?

Vincemelo Anthyoungany

FG% .362
aFG% .366
PP/FGA .895
p/g 18.6
r/g 6.6
a/g 2.5
s/g .86
b/g .14
Denver's postseason record w/Anthony 3-11
Playoff series victories- 0

Yes, you can see how much 'Melo steps up in the postseason, and successful the Nuggets have been as a result.

Vick James, *****

FG% .476
aFG% .510
PP/FGA 1.12
p/g 30.8
r/g 8.1
a/g 5.8
s/g 1.38
b/g .69
Cleveland's postseason record w/LBJ 7-6
Playoff series victories- 1

You're right, I can't believe anyone ever thought that LBJ would be better than Anthony. What the hell has that loser, Vick James, ever done in the playoffs compared to Anthony. It's not like the Cavs have ever won a playoff series with Vick James or anything.

[Brandname]

Originally Posted by The 6ft Hurdle

Overrated stars:

Lebron James: people thought he would be worlds better than Melo. I still can't believe he won ROY as easily as he did. The guy might be all kinds of talented but he is just not a winner. The Michael Vick to Melo's Vince Young.

Steve Nash: even though this might be his best statistical year to date, he doesn't deserve an MVP. He got more than compensated the last two years for his teams that didn't even sniff the Finals. I remember the good ole days when you thought if you had your MVP, that would be good enough to make the Finals.

Dwight Howard: I won't even pretend that I know anything about the Magic. But I do know that hear a lot about them. And when I see and match it up to what I hear, it doesn't look that impressive.

Tracy McGrady: I think wearing the #1 for the Magic curses players into 2-3 unbelievably productive seasons that give Magic fans false hope, then a whole bunch of disappointing injury-riddled seasons.


Overrated by coaches, analysts:

Kirk Hinrich: This guy can struggle through 3 games of a COMBINED 89 minutes, still averaging 30 minutes a game during that stretch, a COMBINED 15 points on 7/25 shooting, ZERO free throws attempts and this is the Bulls FACE of the franchise? If this is our face, someone please hand us a brown paperbag.


Overrated draft picks:

Shaun Livingston: Haven't gotten to watch the Clips lately, but when I watched them against the Iverson 76ers this year, this guy was playing way too much doing way too little. As his stats have gone up, the Clippers win to loss ratio has gone up.

My team would be:

Dwight Howard
Lebron James
Tracy McGrady
Kirk Hinrich
Steve Nash

And just for more fun:

Overrated by Bulls fans in trade proposals. Usually this was in comparison to Ben Gordon.

Jason Richardson: Is his knee injury that serious?

Mike Miller: Not all 6th man of the year awards were created equal.

Monta Ellis: I remember when people were saying earlier in the season that he was the consistent version of Ben Gordon. Call me old school but I always thought the original version was just fine. Not a bad player though.

Holy cow, that's a really bad post.

First, the Lebron and Melo analogy. What are you talking about? It doesn't even make sense. Lebron has won more than Melo. Not that it makes him a better player anyway. But still, you're argument is not correct. He won rookie of the year because people thought he was the better player. Turns out they were right. And I like Melo.

Steve Nash is one of the best players in the league. He might be the best offensive player in the league. He's transformed the Suns franchise. Most people have expressed their disagreement with his 2 MVPs, so if that's what you're basing his "overratedness" on, you're off base.

Dwight Howard. This is where I'm pretty sure your post is just a joke, since you openly admit to knowing nothing about the Magi