Reply

Old 04-25-2007, 11:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
unluckyseventeen
The face of a franchise
 
unluckyseventeen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: SLC
Posts: 5,181
Credits: 22,928.25
Blog Entries: 8
Rep Power: 5626111 unluckyseventeen has disabled reputation
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

His offensive skill is severely lacking, and for whatever reason has regressed this season dramatically. Back when he was putting up huge numbers, he had to get those for the team to win. Now, they have thoroughbreds they can use to get the job done on a more reliable basis. Right now the only spot he can fit into in the offense is shooting from 18 feet because he's wide open, and I'd let him take that shot if I was the man guarding him because he's terrible at it.

He seriously needs to tune up his offensive game. If he had a decent midrange shot he would be a much better asset to the Jazz. He's no less the hussle player he used to be, it's just that the offense isn't featuring him anymore so he's not going to get the numbers he used to. I think right now if you insert Ronnie Brewer into his place, you really wouldn't even notice a difference. I would even say that Brewer has a better outside shot at this point, too.


By the way, Deron's rookie contract expires after next season, so that's one remaining season. Larry Miller, the owner, has already stated that Deron is not going anywhere and he'll get whatever he wants from the organization. If it means trading Kirilenko... then whatever. Kirilenko is still a supreme defender and hussle player, though. He's not nearly as offensively skilled as one was once led to believe. I think if Kirilenko were to head to the Bobcats then Charlotte would suddenly be a pretty dangerous team (to give an example), just due to their style of play. He, Gerald Wallace and Okafor would be the scariest frontcourt in the NBA. Their defensive presence would intimidate any player.
__________________
Web Design and Hosting: http://www.widemind.com
Halo 3 Custom Games and a Great Community: http://www.realcustomgames.com
My Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/xunlucky17x
unluckyseventeen is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 04-25-2007, 12:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
Zei_Zao_LS
Self-Proclaimed Expert
 
Zei_Zao_LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: We want Thibodeau! Hire Thibodeau!
Age: 20
Posts: 1,257
Credits: 8.50
Rep Power: 1524163 Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute Zei_Zao_LS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Quote:
Originally Posted by unluckyseventeen
His offensive skill is severely lacking, and for whatever reason has regressed this season dramatically. Back when he was putting up huge numbers, he had to get those for the team to win. Now, they have thoroughbreds they can use to get the job done on a more reliable basis. Right now the only spot he can fit into in the offense is shooting from 18 feet because he's wide open, and I'd let him take that shot if I was the man guarding him because he's terrible at it.

He seriously needs to tune up his offensive game. If he had a decent midrange shot he would be a much better asset to the Jazz. He's no less the hussle player he used to be, it's just that the offense isn't featuring him anymore so he's not going to get the numbers he used to. I think right now if you insert Ronnie Brewer into his place, you really wouldn't even notice a difference. I would even say that Brewer has a better outside shot at this point, too.


By the way, Deron's rookie contract expires after next season, so that's one remaining season. Larry Miller, the owner, has already stated that Deron is not going anywhere and he'll get whatever he wants from the organization. If it means trading Kirilenko... then whatever. Kirilenko is still a supreme defender and hussle player, though. He's not nearly as offensively skilled as one was once led to believe. I think if Kirilenko were to head to the Bobcats then Charlotte would suddenly be a pretty dangerous team (to give an example), just due to their style of play. He, Gerald Wallace and Okafor would be the scariest frontcourt in the NBA. Their defensive presence would intimidate any player.
Well, if they did that, they'd have to find a few contracts to actually send to the Jazz, as the biggest contract they have is Gerald Wallace's at a bit over 6 million. Chances are they'll be using up a lot of their cap space this off season getting a big free agent or a couple mid-range free agents too, so I don't know that it's actually feasible.

That said, it's a great idea.
__________________
Want to be an NBA GM?
Have your chance to build and maintain your team from the 97-98 season all the way through the 2006-2007 season!
Zei_Zao_LS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 07:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
fruitcake
Bring it
 
fruitcake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,967
Credits: 10.00
Rep Power: 21474848 fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

ak47 for richard jefferson. please god
__________________
Strat Draft v5- Toronto
PG: Joe Johnson/Jamaal Tinsley
SG: Raja Bell/Jarrett Jack
SF: Bruce Bowen/Wally Szczerbiak
PF: Pau Gasol/Antonio Mcdyess
C: Tim Duncan/Nazr Mohammed

Legends Draft-Boston
PG: Mookie Blaylock 93-94: 13.8 pts, 5.2 reb, 9.7 ast, 2.6 stls, All-Defense 1st, All-Star
SG: George Gervin 79-80: 33.1 pts, 5.2 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.4 stl, 1.0 blk, 52.8 FG%, All-NBA 1st, All-Star, AS-MVP, Scoring-Champ
SF: Michael Cooper 86-86: 10.5 pts, 3.1 reb, 4.5 ast, 1.0 stl, All-Defense 1st, DPOY
PF: Dave DeBusschere 72-73: 16.3 pts, 10.2 reb, 3.4 ast, All-Defense 1st, All-Star, NBA Champion
C: Moses Malone 82-83: 24.5 pts, 15.3 reb, 2.0 blk, 50.1 FG%, All-Defense 1st, All-NBA 1st, NBA MVP, All-Star, NBA Finals MVP, NBA Champion
Bench
PF/C: Jack Sikma 81-82: 19.6 pts, 12.7 reb, 3.4 ast, 1.2 stl, 1.3 blk, All-Star, All-Defense 2nd
C: Arvydas Sabonis 95-96: 14.5 pts, 8.1 reb, 1.1 blk, 23.8 mpg, 24.7 PER, All-Rookie 1st
Quote:
"the best European basketball player to ever play the game"-Scottie Pippen
"the greatest passing center of all time"-Bill Walton
PG: Jo Jo White 75-76: 18.9 pts, 3.8 reb, 5.4 ast, All-Star, NBA Champion, NBA Finals MVP
SG/SF: Ron Harper 88-89: 18.6 pts, 5.0 reb, 5.3 ast, 51.1 FG%
SG: Allan Houston 99-00: 19.7 pts, 48.3 FG%, 43.6 3P%, All-Star
fruitcake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2007, 07:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
Avalanche
NBA Champions
 
Avalanche's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Australia
Age: 21
Posts: 10,512
Credits: 171,573.18
Rep Power: 4857876 Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute Avalanche has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Ricky Davis' Expiring so they can re-sign Deron?
Avalanche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2007, 01:21 PM   #20 (permalink)
unluckyseventeen
The face of a franchise
 
unluckyseventeen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: SLC
Posts: 5,181
Credits: 22,928.25
Blog Entries: 8
Rep Power: 5626111 unluckyseventeen has disabled reputation
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
Ricky Davis' Expiring so they can re-sign Deron?
Huh? Trading Kirilenko for Ricky Davis? Sloan would run his *** out of town so fast it'd just be a contract dump. If they are doing that, just dump Kirilenko and save everyone the trouble.
__________________
Web Design and Hosting: http://www.widemind.com
Halo 3 Custom Games and a Great Community: http://www.realcustomgames.com
My Youtube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/xunlucky17x
unluckyseventeen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2007, 02:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
jericho
Star
 
jericho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: D.C.
Posts: 3,975
Credits: 16,015.69
Rep Power: 3227756 jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute jericho has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Quote:
Originally Posted by fruitcake
ak47 for richard jefferson. please god
Exactly what I was thinking. How would Jefferson fit on the Jazz, though?
__________________
Favorite players: Hakeem Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Bill Russell, Alex English, Kiki Vandeweghe, Sidney Moncrief, Lafayette Lever, Dan Issel, Bobby Jones, Julius Erving, Rick Barry, John Havlicek, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West...and Brooks Thompson
jericho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2007, 04:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
fruitcake
Bring it
 
fruitcake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,967
Credits: 10.00
Rep Power: 21474848 fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute fruitcake has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Quote:
Originally Posted by jericho
Exactly what I was thinking. How would Jefferson fit on the Jazz, though?
RJ might be able to play some SG. Who starts at SG for that team? Harpring, Giricek or Fischer? Anyhow...you have Boozer in the low post--Okur on the perimeter....a slasher type like RJ should fit in pretty well. Judging from their first 2 playoff games, they're clearly putting too much pressure on Booz to carry the offense.

I just think AK47 would be an amazing fit for NJ and he would rejuvenate his career playing with Kidd.
__________________
Strat Draft v5- Toronto
PG: Joe Johnson/Jamaal Tinsley
SG: Raja Bell/Jarrett Jack
SF: Bruce Bowen/Wally Szczerbiak
PF: Pau Gasol/Antonio Mcdyess
C: Tim Duncan/Nazr Mohammed

Legends Draft-Boston
PG: Mookie Blaylock 93-94: 13.8 pts, 5.2 reb, 9.7 ast, 2.6 stls, All-Defense 1st, All-Star
SG: George Gervin 79-80: 33.1 pts, 5.2 reb, 2.6 ast, 1.4 stl, 1.0 blk, 52.8 FG%, All-NBA 1st, All-Star, AS-MVP, Scoring-Champ
SF: Michael Cooper 86-86: 10.5 pts, 3.1 reb, 4.5 ast, 1.0 stl, All-Defense 1st, DPOY
PF: Dave DeBusschere 72-73: 16.3 pts, 10.2 reb, 3.4 ast, All-Defense 1st, All-Star, NBA Champion
C: Moses Malone 82-83: 24.5 pts, 15.3 reb, 2.0 blk, 50.1 FG%, All-Defense 1st, All-NBA 1st, NBA MVP, All-Star, NBA Finals MVP, NBA Champion
Bench
PF/C: Jack Sikma 81-82: 19.6 pts, 12.7 reb, 3.4 ast, 1.2 stl, 1.3 blk, All-Star, All-Defense 2nd
C: Arvydas Sabonis 95-96: 14.5 pts, 8.1 reb, 1.1 blk, 23.8 mpg, 24.7 PER, All-Rookie 1st
Quote:
"the best European basketball player to ever play the game"-Scottie Pippen
"the greatest passing center of all time"-Bill Walton
PG: Jo Jo White 75-76: 18.9 pts, 3.8 reb, 5.4 ast, All-Star, NBA Champion, NBA Finals MVP
SG/SF: Ron Harper 88-89: 18.6 pts, 5.0 reb, 5.3 ast, 51.1 FG%
SG: Allan Houston 99-00: 19.7 pts, 48.3 FG%, 43.6 3P%, All-Star
fruitcake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2007, 06:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
SeaNet
I'm a believer
 
SeaNet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 33
Posts: 12,129
Credits: 25,375.08
Rep Power: 7670979 SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute SeaNet has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Quote:
Originally Posted by jericho
Exactly what I was thinking. How would Jefferson fit on the Jazz, though?
How would RJ fit on the Jazz? How about at SF every night for 35-40 minutes a game?
__________________

Sign and Trade for Vince? Any takers... anyone at all...?
SeaNet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 01:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
Jizzy
Sexiest Poster Alive
 
Jizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: In the club, trying to post up
Posts: 14,842
Credits: 47,411.54
Rep Power: 6615118 Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute Jizzy has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Don't be surprised to see RJ dealt for AK47.
__________________
Here is something you can't understand
Jizzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 01:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
essbee
All-Star
 
essbee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,481
Credits: 38,368.60
Rep Power: 7897992 essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute essbee has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Andrei Kerilenko

Beastly triple-single for AK last night. Good to see he's back.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by compsciguy78 View Post
Why are all these athletic black guys making the NBA who don't care about winning and have no brains?
Quote:
Originally Posted by One on One
It's funny how I bet a lot of people here would say Bogut should keep his mouth shut, but when Cam'ron is saying he wouldn't snitch on a serial killer, those same people are giving him props.
Quote:
Originally Posted by VCofMontreal View Post
Okafor and other chain collectors belong in the zoo!
essbee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2007, 02:54 PM   #26 (permalink)
DuMa
All-Star
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7,404
Credits: 23,316.71
Rep Power: 4001534 DuMa has a reputation beyond repute DuMa has a reputation beyond repute